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Old 09-03-2008, 10:16 AM
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Viewing Palin as favorable or unfavorable right now means nothing. Most Americans will be hearing her speak for the first time tonight and will be very interested in what she says. Most opinions now are just based on analysts and will mean very little in comparison to Palin herself once she gives her speech and starts actively campaigning on the stump every day.

edit: Right now, many analysts have repeated their belief that Palin was picked because she's a female, but I believe she'll be received much more warmly once Americans actually get to see her and hear her side of the story, especially after everything the media is putting her through now.
If she goes on again about being an average hockey mom and shattering the ceiling into 18 million pieces, the speech is going to be a flop. It will be interesting to see how she explains her experience considering shes only been governor for less than 2 years and before that mayor of a town of 5,000.

This is where Sarah Palin gained MOST of her "executive" experience to be Vice-President of the United States of America.

WASILLA METROPOLITAN MUNICIPAL PLAZA

Its hard to tell if thats Sonic's or city hall

Hey Sarah! I'd like to order a Super Sonic Burger, everything but onions!

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Old 09-03-2008, 10:19 AM
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:22 AM
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Right. And obama gained all his experience as a community "organizer". What is that anyway?
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:29 AM
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LOL its over McSame
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The last thing McCain wants is for women to actually look at Sarah Palin's views.
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If she goes on again about being an average hockey mom and shattering the ceiling into 18 million pieces, the speech is going to be a flop. It will be interesting to see how she explains her experience considering shes only been governor for less than 2 years and before that mayor of a town of 5,000.

This is where Sarah Palin gained MOST of her "executive" experience to be Vice-President of the United States of America.

WASILLA METROPOLITAN MUNICIPAL PLAZA

Its hard to tell if thats Sonic's or city hall

Hey Sarah! I'd like to order a Super Sonic Burger, everything but onions!

Sarah Palin-mother of an unwed teen and big city mayor.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:53 AM
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If she goes on again about being an average hockey mom and shattering the ceiling into 18 million pieces, the speech is going to be a flop. It will be interesting to see how she explains her experience considering shes only been governor for less than 2 years and before that mayor of a town of 5,000.

This is where Sarah Palin gained MOST of her "executive" experience to be Vice-President of the United States of America.
Perhaps she can take a few cues from some of Obama's former speeches in which he has really emphasized his experience as a community organizer as executive experience. Or she could take some notes on Bill Clinton's old 1994 interviews where he claimed his foreign policy experience came from managing the Arkansas National Guard and focused on other things, because that's just what governors do.

The fact is that the Democrats have set the precedent by nominating Obama that you don't have to have much experience to run for VP, or even President for that matter since he has no executive experience and very little foreign policy credentials. The difference is that she's on the 2nd spot on the ticket with limited executive experience while Obama is on the top of the ticket with no executive experience and being a 1st term of the Legislative branch of government.

You just have to come off as likable to the American Public and talk about how different you are from normal Washington politics ... judging by precedent on the Democratic side of course.

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Old 09-03-2008, 11:06 AM
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I can definitely believe that this is backfiring among the very people (independents) he was looking to influence. Of course it's playing very well with the 25% (ProudCapnMarine, chattypatty) and the few others on here who still think Bush is doing a "heckuva job".

Most of the people I'm in daily contact with are around my age, late 50s and 60s and an informal poll I've taken in the last few days, at the golf course and around the neighborhood has not shown good results for McCain. Even my wife who has still not made up here mind, worried about Obama's lack of experience but worried about McCain's age and flip flopping on EVERYTHING, says this may have put her over the top for Obama.

The consensus is that this is just another bit of McCain's pandering to the (1) the base of the Republican party, and (2) trying to capture the disaffected 50+ blue collar working women. A quote that I made seems to typify their feelings; "oh, he just looks on women as a fungible commodity".

Of course as the truth about her policies comes out, not the baby and family crap, even some of the true believers will fall away. Things like:

"Earmarks are bad for YOU, so I should get them all".

"I fixed the budget problems". No, borrowing doesn't fix any budget problem, just makes the current account look good.

"I RAN the AK National Guard".

"I'm a corruption fighter". Yeah, you and your buddy Ted Stevens!

"If not for me AK's trade with Korea, China and Japan would have disappeared". I actually heard a couple of R talking heads making this point last night.

BTW, don't call me on the quotes. I know she probably didn't use those exact words, but close enough.

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Viewing Palin as favorable or unfavorable right now means nothing. Most Americans will be hearing her speak for the first time tonight and will be very interested in what she says. Most opinions now are just based on analysts and will mean very little in comparison to Palin herself once she gives her speech and starts actively campaigning on the stump every day.

edit: Right now, many analysts have repeated their belief that Palin was picked because she's a female, but I believe she'll be received much more warmly once Americans actually get to see her and hear her side of the story, especially after everything the media is putting her through now.
You're missing the point. Here stance on issues that are important to Hillary's supporters are firm and way to the right. McCain/Palin ticket will basically erase what women have struggled for over 90 years.
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