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Old 09-12-2008, 08:59 AM
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Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Obomber's lead in both Pennsylvannia & Michigan has declined from 8 points to 2 points

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Old 09-12-2008, 09:03 AM
 
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Obomber? Really?

"Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things."
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:06 AM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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All the polls are within a margin of error. Asking 1000 people in a state of a few million is hardly an accurate picture. Polls that ask questions on future behaviours have always been grossly unreliable. Plus, the news corps control the polling and use/manipulate them to feed their news cycles. Clinton was only marginally ahead of Bush Snr in 92 and then completely canned him.

They are fun to watch, but betting on the predicted electoral maps would be a very silly thing to do!
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:07 AM
 
Location: NEPA
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A republican will not win PA. Never happens. The populated areas are HEAVILY democrat....here in Scranton, its a die-hard democrat area....now, its mainly blue-collar labor union old-school democrats, but democrat nonetheless. Most of the older generation here considers voting republican as a sin that requires a trip to confession!
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Why do you think the dems are in a panic? They LIVE and DIE by the polls.

Let's not even mention WA (wth??) with obama +2.
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Pennsylvania Presidential Election Voting History

Not true. Reagan/Bush I won PA. A staunch conservative like Palin on the ticket could swing it to Mac.
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:13 AM
 
Location: NEPA
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Pennsylvania Presidential Election Voting History

Not true. Reagan/Bush I won PA. A staunch conservative like Palin on the ticket could swing it to Mac.
People will be scared off by a bible-thumping pentecostal like Palin. PA is mainly a Catholic and mainline Protestant state, that does not look favorably on the rolling-in-the-aisles-and-speaking-in-tongues types. Reagan was not a bible-thumper.
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Old 09-12-2008, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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People will be scared off by a bible-thumping pentecostal like Palin. PA is mainly a Catholic and mainline Protestant state, that does not look favorably on the rolling-in-the-aisles-and-speaking-in-tongues types. Reagan was not a bible-thumper.
Obviously, you're falling into the left-wing trap. Her record actually shows she has NOT let her personal beliefs dictate how she governs.

Palin 'governed from the center,' went after big oil - USATODAY.com

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ANCHORAGE — Weeks after taking office as Alaska's governor in December 2006, Sarah Palin vetoed a bill that sought to ban benefits for the same-sex partners of state workers. It was unconstitutional, she said.

This year, she rebuffed religious conservatives who wanted her to add two abortion restriction measures to a special legislative session on oil and gas policy, even though she supported the bills. Former aide Larry Persily said she didn't want to risk offending Democrats, whose votes she needed on energy legislation

But in her 21 months as governor, Palin has taken few steps to advance culturally conservative causes. Instead, after she knocked off an incumbent amid an influence-peddling scandal linked to the oil industry, Palin pursued a populist agenda that toughened ethics rules and raised taxes on oil and gas companies.
Can you name an example of her mixing her personal beliefs with governing?
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:53 PM
 
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Believe understand that Obama is not a safe choice and those people are slowing learning more about him and making wise choices.

He like his congress can make all promises and say "just words" but we all know they are lying and cannot come through.
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