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OK, for all those who are soooooo convinced that Obama is only in the position he's in because he's (HALF) black, answer this question:
Why now? Why is it that now a black presidential hopeful is getting a free pass. Why not last election when two blacks ran. And one of them was a woman for god sake.
Oh and another thing.... What about Bill Richardson? He's (half) Hispanic. That's not white. So why didn't he get a pass? Why are you not making a big deal about him?
.....Oh that's right, he didn't make it this far.......
You're right about one thing...
Timing is everything. We have evolved as a nation... no doubt.
He is eloquent. He's a nice looking man... the fact that he's done so well proves that we have come a long way.
Mr. Richardson does not have the presence that Mr. Obama has but that doesn't mean Obama's got the experience he needs to be president.
But, is he really ready to be president or is it all pretty words?
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Timing is everything. We have evolved as a nation... no doubt.
He is eloquent. He's a nice looking man... the fact that he's done so well proves that we have come a long way.
I think we were pretty evolved as a nation 8 years ago....
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Mr. Richardson does not have the presence that Obama has but that doesn't mean Obama's got the experience.
But, is he really ready to be president or is it all pretty words?
I don't know about you, but I can say the same thing about McCain.
Think about it like this..... even the oldest man in the world who's seen and done everything is STILL capable of doing something stupid and going the wrong way. Just think about most 90 year olds who still drive.......
He'd never get the media support. . . they'd have long ago split for Hillary or Edwards or another. Picture a Gore with connections to unrepentant domestic terrorists; it would actually be reported and looked into. Obama gets a free pass.
Ironic thing is that he's really killing the democratic party. Any other nominee and they'd be coasting to victory and taking all number of congressional seats with him. . . If things continue; and they may or may not, an easy dem landslide could turn into disaster.
I do agree with your last point: He could be killing the democratic party's chances in '08. But if so, I believe it will be the fault of the electorate and not his.
I disagree however that the media would have long ago split for Hillary or Edwards or for anyone else, because it is not his race that attracts their attention it's him, and they would have been just as smitten with a white, charismatic, intelligent, and I believe fair-minded candidate.
Last edited by ExPit; 09-13-2008 at 03:25 PM..
Reason: Saturday sluggishness...missed a word.
OK, for all those who are soooooo convinced that Obama is only in the position he's in because he's (HALF) black, answer this question:
Why now? Why is it that now a black presidential hopeful is getting a free pass. Why not last election when two blacks ran. And one of them was a woman for god sake.
Oh and another thing.... What about Bill Richardson? He's (half) Hispanic. That's not white. So why didn't he get a pass? Why are you not making a big deal about him?
.....Oh that's right, he didn't make it this far.......
Biden answered that long ago:
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
Do you think that Joe Biden, whom I respect, would have said even before he knew he'd be the VP pick, that it was the only reaso Obama got this far?
Maybe a valid point...Try to imagine it: a brilliant, articulate, public-serving scholar who came from nowhere and nobody to the steps of the 2nd most powerful position on Earth....and you've got Sarah Palin.
..you forgot the Harvard and Columbia thing. No biggie.
. . . no one would have ever heard of him.
. . . Hillary Clinton would be the Dem nominee.
. . . he would lack the one thing he has going for him in this election.
. . . his odds of having a wife who is NOT an angry skank would be higher.
Angry 'skank'? How do you define 'skank'? Is that a like a pregnant unmarried teenager? Like that?
I think he would win by a landslide. I think more of us are turned off by his skin color than are aware of it.
Try to imagine it: a brilliant, articulate, public-serving scholar who came from nowhere and nobody to the steps of the most powerful position on Earth?
I know many of you will be unmoved by this hypothetical, and there are many others who will say, "He has my support now as he would then." But to those of you who are still on the fence, who maybe are leaning towards him but for some sense of apprehension, what about it? Am I off, or do you concede it may make a difference?
There is definately truth to this. Believe me, I'm the last person to support these idiots that play the race, sex, etc. card every chance they get. But I have heard it with my own ears. I know several people in Michigan & Ohio that won't vote for him because he's black. These are true blue, union rat democrats...And the only reason they can give is that Obama is black.
I really don't care for Obama, because of his politics, but the worst thing for this country would be another 4yrs of Bush (McCain), and it would be such a shame to end up with a disaster like McCain/Palin because people didn't want to vote for a black guy. Although his wife doesn't seem to help much with her angry upper middle-class/rich black woman syndrome problems.
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