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Old 09-17-2008, 12:37 PM
 
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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There are 50 different state laws and statutes. Still, with the millions of dollars these two raised, you think they could hire 10 people to contact 5 states? Or even 50 people to contact each state.
You'd think after the 100+ years, the parties would know what dates they need to register for.. Its not like they are new to Texas..
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:46 PM
 
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Yep. Incompetence by the two parties assuming that they will always be on the ballot. Can McCain even get the number of electors without Texas?
I just pulled up a create your own map to see. Yes, McCain can still win but I think the possibility of it happening this way is slim.

Giving Obama only the usual states McCain would win by 8 electorial votes - Wash, Oregon, Cali, Minn, Wisc, Ill, Mich, PA, NY, Ver, Maine, Mass, RI, Conn, NJ, Del, MD, DC

If just one tossup state goes blue, its over for McCain. - NM, Col, NV, Oh, FL, Iowa (which I count as a tossup since they've gone Dem, Dem, Rep in the last 3 elections)

If any of the usual voting red states went blue, it would be over for McCain.

And then god forbid, if Obama won NH but all the rest of the red states voted red then we'd end up in a tie.

You can play with the map here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo..._mccain/?map=1

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You'd think after the 100+ years, the parties would know what dates they need to register for.. Its not like they are new to Texas..
Isn't that the truth.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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You'd think after the 100+ years, the parties would know what dates they need to register for.. Its not like they are new to Texas..
70 days before the election. It really isn't that hard. Of course, after Barr pointed out to the SoS that the two candidates had not registered (their conventions had not been held yet), the SoS claimed that they had amended their original filings with the names of both P/VP candidate. That's not legal either as the law is written.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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And then god forbid, if Obama won NH but all the rest of the red states voted red then we'd end up in a tie.
LOL. Cheney would be the one that casts the final vote as he is the President of the Senate. I think. I could be wrong.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:56 PM
 
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LOL. Cheney would be the one that casts the final vote as he is the President of the Senate. I think. I could be wrong.
No, it would be totally up to the House of Reps.

First there is a period where candidates may try to sway one of the pledged electors to change his or her vote. Electors are usually pretty hard core to their party though so I can't see that happening.

It then heads to the House of Reps where Dems currently have control. Each states House delegation gets one vote. So Texas's 34 members would only get one vote for the whole of them and so on and so forth until all votes are cast. Whoever has the most votes, wins. DC's vote would have the same weight as California's in this case.

If no candidate gets the majority they keep voting until one does. Crazy!

The senate will then do the same thing when voting for the VP.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:59 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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Even if they aren't on the ballot, it's called WRITE IN. He will still be a far minority representation here in Texas.
No... Texas law states that write in candidates must have applied as well.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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No, it would be totally up to the House of Reps.

First there is a period where candidates may try to sway one of the pledged electors to change his or her vote. Electors are usually pretty hard core to their party though so I can't see that happening.

It then heads to the House of Reps where Dems currently have control. Each states House delegation gets one vote. So Texas's 34 members would only get one vote for the whole of them and so on and so forth until all votes are cast. Whoever has the most votes, wins. DC's vote would have the same weight as California's in this case.

If no candidate gets the majority they keep voting until one does. Crazy!

The senate will then do the same thing when voting for the VP.
Ok, I knew the Senate would have something to do with it. I was thinking it was the Presidency, not the VP, but that makes sense.

Could you imagine, Obama/Palin? Heads would explode.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:04 PM
 
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Ok, I knew the Senate would have something to do with it. I was thinking it was the Presidency, not the VP, but that makes sense.

Could you imagine, Obama/Palin? Heads would explode.
My god would they ever but I do wonder if the senate would dare go that way. What I mean is, even if you're a Rep, do you dare vote for Palin if your state voted for Obama/Biden? That seems like certain career death to me. Said state is not then likely to elect you again.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:09 PM
 
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Pretty flimsy argument. The argument is that since the conventions were after the deadline, by default they couldn't have already filed.

Hmmm, since I didn't go to the post office until after my electric bill was due, I must have missed the deadline and now my power should be shut off.

That is the level of logic being used.

Barr is a fake and a phoney anyway. I was wanting to vote libertarian, but no way I'm voting for Bob Barr. The guy is a joke and IMO the libertarian party is going NOWHERE if this is the best they can come up with for a candidate.
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