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Old 09-22-2008, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Vast majority of Americans are ignorant and uneducated, so your theory makes absolute sense, however, Liberals happen to be the majority in places like California and the East Coast, the two areas of the country that basically carry the rest of the country. The states with the lowest levels of education tend to be Republican, and the states with highest educational achievement are always Democrat. I happen to be an Independent and these are just the facts.
Very true but being educated doesn't make someone smart or intelligent. In fact, most college graduates these days are quite unintelligent. Most high school graduate are nowhere near being prepared for real college and because of such have to take remedial course. They shouldn't even be in college, much less taking remedial courses. Then there is the affirmative action, so we can have even more people in college that do not belong there.
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:02 AM
 
Location: At my computador
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Us vs. them. .
Social Security and Medicare costs 17% of my income (when you include the state tax that matches federal Medicare funds) and, at that rate, MC will be going bankrupt in five years and SS will be bankrupt when my turn comes.

The Social Security Administration received the money and then loaned it to the Treasury. From there, Congress spent it. Now, if our parents, grandparents and great grandparents let their Congresses spend the money and now they want to take money from me and leave me broke when I'm old because they spent the money, what else can it be but us vs. them?

When I don't want to give money to the government but you want to force me to give it, what else is it but you vs. me?

Government's only tool is force. Every time you vote for the government to do something for us, you're voting to force others to pay for what you want. America has a real nice system that allows you to start organizations if you want something to happen. When you do that, you don't have to impose on anyone else's freedom. What do you think about that?

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Looking at sanrene's posts its apparent he has a very basic, black vs. white view of the entire world.
The government screws everything up. There are 435 Congresspeople who represent over 300,000,000 people. When one Congressperson has a good idea, to get it through, that good idea must undergo the adjustments by, well over, 200 of those people. The result of all those adjustments is a good idea that's become damaged 200+ times.

That idea was never good for all 300,000,000 people. Instead, it was great for one group, alright for another, tolerable for the next, oppressive to the next. The government is a bull in a china shop when they fix problems.

Everything is black and white. I fit everything into these boxes: If the government tries to fix this, will it be better or worse? Those are the only two boxes the government can handle.

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Thats true California is full of liberals and take a look at the state of California today! The illegal problem, gangs! High crime! Pollution. Imagine if the dems win the race- say bye bye America!
Don't forget the height of California socialism! Grey Davis! So inept, he started an exodus from California... before he was recalled. That's what happens when all those "thmart" liberals take control.
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Old 09-22-2008, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Nevada
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Default McCain/Palin 2008 for real Change

The California Liberal connection I know about well! I live in the neighboring state Nevada, now Nevada is leaning to obama but tons & tons of people from California moved to Nevada saying they had to escape the Liberal bull.... control of California.

Hopefully America wakes up in time!

Vote for a better tomorrow! Look at California, looks at the gangs, the Illegals, the pollution. Thats big government, liberal control.

To whats best for America and vote for:

McCain/Palin 2008







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Social Security and Medicare costs 17% of my income (when you include the state tax that matches federal Medicare funds) and, at that rate, MC will be going bankrupt in five years and SS will be bankrupt when my turn comes.

The Social Security Administration received the money and then loaned it to the Treasury. From there, Congress spent it. Now, if our parents, grandparents and great grandparents let their Congresses spend the money and now they want to take money from me and leave me broke when I'm old because they spent the money, what else can it be but us vs. them?

When I don't want to give money to the government but you want to force me to give it, what else is it but you vs. me?

Government's only tool is force. Every time you vote for the government to do something for us, you're voting to force others to pay for what you want. America has a real nice system that allows you to start organizations if you want something to happen. When you do that, you don't have to impose on anyone else's freedom. What do you think about that?



The government screws everything up. There are 435 Congresspeople who represent over 300,000,000 people. When one Congressperson has a good idea, to get it through, that good idea must undergo the adjustments by, well over, 200 of those people. The result of all those adjustments is a good idea that's become damaged 200+ times.

That idea was never good for all 300,000,000 people. Instead, it was great for one group, alright for another, tolerable for the next, oppressive to the next. The government is a bull in a china shop when they fix problems.

Everything is black and white. I fit everything into these boxes: If the government tries to fix this, will it be better or worse? Those are the only two boxes the government can handle.



Don't forget the height of California socialism! Grey Davis! So inept, he started an exodus from California... before he was recalled. That's what happens when all those "thmart" liberals take control.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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When the Democrats are being seen as the sane ones on the economy, it's bad news for the country and the GOP.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Here They Go Again | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com





I've been saying this for a while. There are more of us than the lefties. The liberal policies of democrats like Obama scare the beejebees out of the electorate.


The fiscal irresponsibility and willingness to invade other nations without cause of the NeoConfused scare the "beejebees" outa me
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:16 AM
 
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Thats true California is full of liberals and take a look at the state of California today! The illegal problem, gangs! High crime! Pollution. Imagine if the dems win the race- say bye bye America!

Vote Wisely! Dont let the liberals bring down America like they did with California!
.....Yeah, and California is doing so horribly that it is in the top 10 largest economies in the world...and that's compared to entire countries!

The state of California, no matter how much we cry about how overcrowded and expensive it is, brings in far more in revenue and GDP generation for the rest of the country than it receives in federal spending. California is the backbone of the U.S. economy and no other single state is a bigger component of that economy, except maybe Texas. Do we blame that on the evil liberals?
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:19 AM
 
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Vast majority of Americans are ignorant and uneducated, so your theory makes absolute sense, however, Liberals happen to be the majority in places like California and the East Coast, the two areas of the country that basically carry the rest of the country. The states with the lowest levels of education tend to be Republican, and the states with highest educational achievement are always Democrat. I happen to be an Independent and these are just the facts.
The east coast and west coast have the most wealth.

Wealth is correlated with better education.

Political party has nothing to do with it.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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Reminder; We are a center-right nation
Finally, something that we agree on! And since McCain/Palin are right wing extremists, this means that you are voting for Obama right?
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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Inner cities her in the midwest are vastly more Liberal and have atrocious school systems.

The burbs are extremely republican and have much better schools.

Again, people with money tend to care more about their child's education and that child will be put in the best possible situation to get the best possible education.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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Finally, something that we agree on! And since McCain/Palin are right wing extremists, this means that you are voting for Obama right?

McCain right wing extremist? Is that a joke? Conservatives jumped ship with his nomination because of his liberal views.

Democrats even admit that Obama is one of the most liberal Senators in America.. he is the one vastly out of touch with most Americans.
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