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Old 09-22-2008, 10:35 AM
 
Location: USA
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A lot of kool-aid drinkers in this thread. I don't know if you know but we brought Al-Qaeda into Iraq and provided a training ground for terrorists.

Good! We can kill them in Iraq instead of here in the U.S.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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That would be awesome. Could you imagine if all the countries in the middle east were democracies? They could get real educations instead of brain washing by terrorists? They could vote for their leaders. They would have a stake in their personal property. Crime would fall. Women could come out of the shadows and be themselves. People could do what we're doing now.. discuss the issues.. w/out fear of death.

Yeah, those would be awful terrible things.
You are delirious!
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They were against the war from the start.
No. You mean the surge. The democrats voted for the war as well. They were privy to the same intelligence the administration was.

Can't run from that fact.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:38 AM
 
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Because they feel that Almighty Nobama is going to enter the White House and save the day by calling all the troops home the very same day he's officially sworn in office. Now they can all relax and never worry about Iraq again, Nobama to the rescue.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:39 AM
 
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The liberals were hoping and praying for failure in Iraq. They were against the war from the start. So if we win and they become democratic and become the beacon of freedom and hope for the middle east then they, the democrats, were wrong.

And to be wrong is impossible for the democrats. So they voted on early withdraw knowing it would cause defeat.

But defeat means more dead Americans.

They knew this but they couldn't afford to be wrong on the Iraq war.
Using the deaths of our troops in a blatant lie to try to make a political point is sick, and the most anti-American thing you can do. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:40 AM
 
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No. You mean the surge. The democrats voted for the war as well. They were privy to the same intelligence the administration was.

Can't run from that fact.
I agree that Democrats are to blame too. They had no spine when one was needed and went along.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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If we would have listened to Obama we wouldn't have been there in the first place.
Yep, and 3,000+ of our finest men and women, would still be alive, and we wouldn't have wasted billions of dollars a month.

If we've won, why not w/draw all troops right now? I know, logistics wise, it would take a few months, but why continue wasting money, especially that we don't have, after Bush and his cronies have bailed out every financial and mortgage company known to man it seems, by leaving them there. We've taken out focus off of those that harmed us based in Afghanistan b/c of Iraq, and now Ahganistan and Pakistan are causing more problems.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:51 AM
 
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Default The Democrat Leaders are now condemning the economy that the Democrat Congress has created

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Because all the new is good. The dems/liberals/progressives were hoping for failure in Iraq so they could use it as a campaign issue but the surge worked. We've won in Iraq.

http://tinyurl.com/4ar5q9 (broken link)
The Democrat Leaders are now condemning the economy that the Democrat Congress has created.

Iraq was all DOOM and Gloom to them... but now, they are making sure that the economy is.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Good! We can kill them in Iraq instead of here in the U.S.
Let's refocus here. You cut and run in Afghanistan and now we have to go back. The President declared them our friends and said everything was alright there, remember? Look, you guys don't support the troops, the record is clear....you've declared a small victory countless times and taken your eye off the ball twice as much. You don't listen to Generals, the Citizens, Congress, neighboring States or the Treasury. This thing has been a colossal mess and you want us to focus on some dumb surge that couldn't even deliver diplomatic benchmarks. Who're you kidding? Your guy's didn't even properly arm the troops, and you ran out of gas on the way in! Remember that? Ran out of fuel. That should have been a precursor right then and there for the scenario we were in for. Now you want to tackle a Nuclear Pakistan? Did I miss the billing? This is a Comedy show?
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:55 AM
 
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Because they feel that Almighty Nobama is going to enter the White House and save the day by calling all the troops home the very same day he's officially sworn in office. Now they can all relax and never worry about Iraq again, Nobama to the rescue.
Regardless of Obama or McCain winning, Iraq seems to be dying down - I hope things work out "soon". We can argue whether we needed to go there etc - it does not matter as much as a few years ago. Now, the focus needs to shift to the Afghan/Pakistan area - the #1 source for the 9-11 attack. Thankfully, both candidates are fairly close in their positions on this one.
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