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How did the Dems block it when the Republicans controlled Congress? Inquiring minds want to know. I have asked you this before.
The same way the republicans have been able to block legislation when the dems are in control. When the senate is close, the minority party has the most leverage.
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The same way the republicans have been able to block legislation when the dems are in control. When the senate is close, the minority party has the most leverage.
I would have thought that fact obvious.
Uh, it's a little different when the POTUS and Congress are of the same party than when they're not.
Welcome to BushWorld, up is down, hot is cold, and the President's confused
So all these freebies handed out to people for years was done by the conservatives? And they are wanting to doctor this bill to hand out even more freebies that we cannot afford. No, I believe that is the Democrats. We are a nation of irresponsible children.
Greed of the poor and the rich are bankrupting our nation.
See, I can run for president. I know how to tell you what the problem is. A good president is one that is looking for the solution, not the one blaming it on everybody else.
How did the Dems block it when the Republicans controlled Congress? Inquiring minds want to know. I have asked you this before.
That's been answered here...
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What is so disturbing to me is the lack of understanding of both history and how our government works displayed by many folks here. S.190 was introduced in the 109th Congress. During the first six years of the Bush administration the Democrats routinely blocked legislation from coming to the floor for votes by using the filibuster. At one point there was a highly publicized showdown between the parties over the refusal to allow Bush appointed judges from getting a floor vote for confirmation. The rules of the Senate also apply to committees. In other words it is possible for a bill to be filibustered in committee as well as on the senate floor itself.
S.190 is one of the bills that was filibustered by the Democrats in committee in 2005. That means that it needed 60% support to get out of committee for a floor vote. During the 109th Congress the members of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs were:
Democrats:
• Paul S. Sarbanes (Md.), Ranking Member
• Christopher Dodd (Conn.)
• Tim Johnson (S.D.)
• Jack Reed (R.I.)
• Chuck Schumer (N.Y.)
• Evan Bayh (Ind.)
• Thomas R. Carper (Del.)
• Debbie Stabenow (Mich.)
• Robert Menendez (N.J.)
Republicans:
• Richard Shelby (Ala.), Chairman
• Robert Bennett (Utah)
• Wayne Allard (Colo.)
• Mike Enzi (Wyo.)
• Chuck Hagel (Neb.)
• Rick Santorum (Pa.)
• Jim Bunning (Ky.)
• Mike Crapo (Idaho)
• John E. Sununu (N.H.)
• Elizabeth Dole (N.C.)
• Mel Martinez (Fla.)
As you can see there are 20 members on the committee. There were eleven Republicans and nine Democrats at the time. Since the vote was strictly along party lines they could not generate the 12 votes required for the bill to pass out of committee. One of the Democrats would have had to break ranks and none did.
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So all these freebies handed out to people for years was done by the conservatives? And they are wanting to doctor this bill to hand out even more freebies that we cannot afford. No, I believe that is the Democrats. We are a nation of irresponsible children.
Greed of the poor and the rich are bankrupting our nation.
So you're telling us the NeoConfused party line is government should exist only to aid the corporations that buy it? And the people should just lie down and die?
Marie Antoinette would be proud!
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