Bill Clinton admitted it.... (9/11, president, solution, Bush)

[odanny]

Originally Posted by domino

Yes, the bill he signed that was created by the Republican-controlled legislature. And we have had Republican-controlled legislature for 6 of the 8 years Bush has sat on his thrown. Plently of time for the Republicans to reverse this position if they had cared.

Oh, YES!

You win that argument convincingly. +1 to you sir.

[paullySC]

Originally Posted by domino

Yes, the bill he signed that was created by the Republican-controlled legislature. And we have had Republican-controlled legislature for 6 of the 8 years Bush has sat on his thrown. Plently of time for the Republicans to reverse this position if they had cared.

Clinton signed the bill correct? That is the only thing that matters.

[odanny]

Originally Posted by GregW

The Republican motto since Ronald Raygun taught them about Hollywood, has been to privatize gains, socialize debt and never tax what you can borrow. He also taught the Republicans that appearance is far more important than policy in winning elections. Even Bill Clinton realized that as he sold Republican policies while appearing to be a Democrat.

Very true.

Originally Posted by GregW

The Dems are likely to loose this election if they continue to stress policy over appearance. McCain is the HERO that will save us from the Evil World while Obama is just talking about how to solve real problems instead of appearing as superman.

"Sell the sizzle, not the meat."

Well, on this I am gambling on the common sense of Americans. Sell the ideas and policy differences and let the Republicans sink themselves with nonsense. Its all they got and I dont believe for a second that the Obama/Biden ticket needs to wallow in the mud with the Repubicans, right now they are the only ones all dirty while Obama concentrates on real issues.

Thats what America wants right now. The time is now to take off the gloves and give them the truth. McCain is a liar and a fool, calling him a flip flopper is too nice

[odanny]

Originally Posted by paullySC

Clinton signed the bill correct? That is the only thing that matters.

So you are attacking someone for bi-partisan cooperation?

Sometimes you have to do this to make your policy work, that has been impossible under Bush, and that has an upside:

The Republicans are solely to blame for the past 8 years. Americans know who has been in power and how they rule by decree.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by paullySC

Clinton signed the bill correct? That is the only thing that matters.

WOW! So YOU've been granted power to grant absolution to all those of BOTH parties who passed the bill and sent it over to the White House?

[World Citizen]

Originally Posted by paullySC

Clinton signed the bill correct? That is the only thing that matters.

It's true. He had the power to veto.

He's the one who's ultimately responsible. He's got equal responsibility for his choices, just like you guys want to blame Bush for everything, right?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by World Citizen

It's true. He had the power to veto.

He's the one who's ultimately responsible. He's got equal responsibility for his choices, just like you guys want to blame Bush for everything, right?

Isn't it funny?

When Clinton's involved he acted alone, when Bush starts a war of choice we hear how Congress voted to fund it

[delusianne]

Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 or CFMA (H.R. 5660 and S.3283) repealed the Shad-Johnson jurisdictional accord, which had banned single stock futures in 1982. The legislation also provided certainty that products offered by banking institutions would not be regulated as futures contracts. This act was incorporated by reference into H.R. 4577 (see below). The legislation thus became law as a part of H.R. 4577 - Public Law 106–554, §1(a)(5) signed by Bill Clinton December 21, 2000.
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The companion bill (S.3283) was introduced in the Senate on Dec. 15th, 2000 by Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) and cosponsored by Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL) Sen. Phil Gramm (R-TX) Sen. Charles Hagel (R-NE) Sen. Thomas Harkin (D-IA) Sen. Tim Johnson (D-SD) and never debated in the Senate.[2]

The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 has received criticism for the so-called "Enron Loophole," 7 U.S.C. §2(h)(3) and (g), which exempts most over-the-counter energy trades and trading on electronic energy commodity markets. The "loophole" was drafted by Enron Lobbyists working with senator Phil Gramm[3] seeking a deregulated atmosphere for their new experiment, "Enron On-line"[citation needed].

Several Democratic Legislators introduced legislation to close the loophole from 2000-2006[4][5], but were unsuccessful.

[World Citizen]

Originally Posted by burdell

Isn't it funny?

When Clinton's involved he acted alone, when Bush starts a war of choice we hear how Congress voted to fund it

Yep. He must have known why FDR put that bill in place. There was something to do with safeguards to protect the public -- after the Great Depression.

This morning, in the interview with Matt Lauer, Mr. Clinton said, "It seemed safer to do it then than it does now"...

He knows he's responsible.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by World Citizen

Yep. He must have known why FDR put that bill in place. There was something to do with safeguards to protect the public -- after the Great Depression.

Today, in the interview with Matt Lauer he said, "It seemed safer to do it then than it does now"...

He knows he's responsible.

HE's responsible? Alone?

Just HOW did that bill get to the White House? Did it mystically appear under a toadstool in the Rose Garden?