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Old 09-26-2008, 01:57 PM
 
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...The problem is, Obama being #1 has set the bar SO LOW, that one cannot say Palin is a "bad choice" without also simultaneously believing Obama is as well.

DO you think Obama knew half as much as he does now when he began campaigning? Do you think he knows half as much as he should?...
How oblivious can you be? Whether or not the OP happens to be true or not, it is clear that the McCain campaign is trying to hide her and limit her public interaction to prepared statements.

You can say what you will about Obama's limited experience in comparison to Palin's limited experience. The fact remains, we still know very little about who the hell Sarah Palin is.

Much of what she ostensibly stands for has been debunked, but please tell me what a champion she was on the bridge to nowhere, and how aquatic borders with a foreign country qualify as foreign policy.

Obama has been tried and tested and come out (so far) smelling like a rose. He has constantly defended himself on sometimes absurd charges about himself and his history. He has held press conferences and interviews (O'Reilly twice), and participated in around 400 debates during the primary. Everything is on the table. He may have come in as an unknown, but at this point in time, if you don't know anything about him, it's because you've been sleeping.

Don't even dream of comparing Palin (or even McCain by this standard) to Obama. Outside of a partisan election year, politicians across the board agree that the best measure of a candidate's ability is how they run their campaign. I defy you to name a single modern candidate that has run one as well as Obama.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:58 PM
 
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Better narcissism (which can be ok in healthy doses) than schizophrenia and senility.

Well tell you what then? Why don't we let Obama be president of seven states, while McCain can take the regular 50? Maybe those seven states near Canada, so Obama can have a close relationship with the PRESIDENT of Canada?






Some people are old enough to be excused for making gaffes. Other people might have done a little too much blow in college.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:00 PM
 
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Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people are more than concerned about Palin. The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press conference; both are being described as "disastrous." One senior McCain aide was quoted as saying, "What are we going to do?" The McCain people want to move this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never. People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is "clueless."

The Ed Schultz Show
Ed, please name your sources.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:03 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Well tell you what then? Why don't we let Obama be president of seven states, while McCain can take the regular 50? Maybe those seven states near Canada, so Obama can have a close relationship with the PRESIDENT of Canada?
Dude, come on; is that the best you can come up with? Fifty-seven was obviously referring to the number of primaries and/or caucuses. Prime minister/president? Essentially the same thing, just a different title.

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Other people might have done a little too much blow in college.
He must have some exceptional brain cells if that's all the "gaffing" he's done as a result of prior drug use. Come back with something a bit more substantial.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:05 PM
 
Location: VA
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Whether this is true or not, they still got what they paid for.

To any future Republican Presidential candidate, please make sure you have an actual vetting process for selecting your VP, that way you don't end up with a moron like Palin.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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or Biden....
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:10 PM
 
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The problem is, Obama being #1 has set the bar SO LOW, that one cannot say Palin is a "bad choice" without also simultaneously believing Obama is as well.
Bar set low...hmmmm.

Here's a test. Match the quote with the candidate. Both were taken from transcripts of live interviews.

"We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state."

What has not changed at all is the underlying fact that, No. 1, Iraq was a huge strategic blunder that strengthened Iran, took our eye off the ball in Afghanistan, let al Qaeda off the hook, and we've got to make a strategic shift.




"The second thing that hasn't changed is the Iraqi government still hasn't taken responsibility, that they aren't spending their own oil revenues. They've got $80 billion parked in New York banks while we're spending $10 billion a month. And I believe, and continue to believe, that until we send a clear signal that we are going to withdraw in a phased, systematic way, that they're not going to start getting their act together.

Now, Prime Minister Maliki has suggested that a timetable now makes sense. Even the Bush administration has been discussing a time horizon. John McCain is the only guy who still is trying to figure out ways to stay, instead of ways for us to go.

And it is important for us to understand that, unless we start putting more responsibility in the hands of the Iraqis, we are going to be hamstrung in dealing with the larger battle against terror that is so critical to our long-term security."
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Austin
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The only ones 'clueless' in this little charade are those who believed that you can make a silk purse from a sow's ear.
Hey sexist: I would really appreciate it if you stopped calling Sarah Palin a pig. These Obamanuts will stop at nothing!!!



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Old 09-26-2008, 02:16 PM
 
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Hey sexist: I would really appreciate it if you stopped calling Sarah Palin a pig. These Obamanuts will stop at nothing!!!



Well if the shoe fits...
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Downtown Greensboro, NC
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They only gave her the talking points. Apparently, she hasn't been keeping up with foreign events. I guess her sister's husband was more important.

Honestly people, do you really think this woman is a good choice for the second highest office in the country? Disregard McCain for a minute. Just be honest. There is a lot more at stake here than an election.
am I missing something? I thought you were a McCain-Palin supporter.
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