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Old 09-27-2008, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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And obama never called him Sen McCain, just John, whereas McCain gave him the respect he was due.

This "talking point" the left and the obama-media have adopted leads me to believe that's all they got from the debate.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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No matter if you like someone or not, you show respect. It's a debate, you talk to your opponent FACE TO FACE. Not stare at the moderator with stupid smirks and awkward smiles.

McCain obviously has some issues with showing respect. From his body language last night, he acted as if Obama wasn't there. Again, no matter how you feel about someone, it's all about showing respect and some common courtesy!

I give Obama points for trying to have a man to man face to face conversation, but obviously the only men on the stage last night was Obama & Jim.
I agree. I thought that Sen. Obama was very respectful from beginning to end. He walked out, immediately went up to Sen. McCain to shake his hand and at the end did the same while telling him that he thought Sen. McCain did a good job. Sen. McCain did not even have the decency to reply.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:17 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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If Obama was a reporter or one of McCains staff, then Sen McCain would be the correct way to address him. Obama is Equal to McCain and John is perfectly acceptable. As i said before it can also help in humanising a debate.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Notice whenever McCain addressed obama he said Sen Obama. Obama called him by his first name.
They're both Senator's and Statesmen. If one were a President and the other a Senator this may be viewed as inappropriate, in this case it denoted an air of familiarity with the others position on an intimate level. It had an unconscious effect of pulling one into a personal discussion, where the viewer is the observer in a disagreement on issues discussed behind closed doors, now pulled into public display. Very effective method of stripping and disarming ones inherent spacing.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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This "talking point" the left and the obama-media have adopted leads me to believe that's all they got from the debate.
Of course the media's going to hammer this, they're all professional PUBLIC speakers. Anyone who deals with the public knows a couple of things 1. The greatest fear in society is Public Speaking & 2. Always look the other person in the eye.

This is taught in everything from children's sports to military to executive level interviewing.

Sheesh
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Someone suggested that McCain didn't look Obama in the eyes because it would have meant him looking upwards. Maybe he just couldn't see that far? All through the Debate it was so noticeable that McCain would not engage Obama "Man to Man".
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Bay Area
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As Hardball tonight correctly pointed out --

During this debate, where the format was 5 minutes of face-to-face conversation on each question by the candidates, McCain never once even looked at Obama! No eye contact whatsoever.

So what's up? No eye contact with your opponent would tend to indicate that you are either lying, misleading, or just plain intimidated. Even worse when it was supposed to be part of the format of the debate!
I noticed it too- very weird that McCain kept avoiding all eye contact with Obama and couldn't offer his hand for a shake. Body language says so much and he's either intimidated by Obama, pi**ed off, planning to lie, or embarrassed.. I'd be curious to hear what psychologist made of his akward body language.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:17 AM
 
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you're on the right track, but, obama is not his equal. By calling him John and agreeing with him he tried to make it appear as if he was McCains equal. Obama is a jr freshman senator and McCain is a Lion in the Senate. McCain was citing specific bills, laws and legislation in the context of how they applied to current events. Obama was forced to speak in generalities because he was in Jr high school when alot of this work had been done.

Kind of felt sorry for the young fella

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If Obama was a reporter or one of McCains staff, then Sen McCain would be the correct way to address him. Obama is Equal to McCain and John is perfectly acceptable. As i said before it can also help in humanising a debate.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Limestone,TN/Bucerias, Mexico
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Staring at his own podium could not have played well with anyone except hard-core McCain supporters. It's not gonna help with any independents, and the effect with older white voters... well, perhaps you can better explain what you mean by that and we'll go from there.
I agree that in this climate of crisis when it's more important than ever that the two parties work together, McCain's near-disdain of Obama didn't play well at all. For any independant looking for a sign to tilt them off center and lean towards one candidate, this could have been the tilting point..
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:27 AM
 
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And obama never called him Sen McCain, just John, whereas McCain gave him the respect he was due.

This "talking point" the left and the obama-media have adopted leads me to believe that's all they got from the debate.
I agree with you, this is a political debate and if I would have been standing there(which is impossible), but I would have done the same. It showed that he doesn't care about these type of tactics and tricks..."Come on John" OMG what a silly guy Obama is, not presidential at all.


McCain went back to Washington to work, that is what he was chosen for and he puts Country First!!! Obama is all about him!
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