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Old 09-27-2008, 01:57 AM
 
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I agree. McBama didn't say anything we didn't already know. I think they both lost this debate.
lol @ this

as soon as you realized that McCain lost the debate you want to make it a lost for both of them


Obama looked at the camera, spoke about middle class America, spoke about healthcare, reached out to McCain and agreed on some points in a bipartisan effort, educated McCain on foreign policy (which supposedly McCain has the upper hand)



which debate were you watching?
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:58 AM
 
Location: OC, CA
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McCain Camp: Boredom Good News For Us


One observation on the debate from a number of people who aren't paid to watch these things: They changed the channel at some point. Whoever did better -- McCain in my inside-the-bubble take -- did so on points, and the campaign will move quickly back to the reality of an economic crisis.
Some creative spin on the mild snooziness of the affair:
"If people are bored, that plays to our benefit," said RNC spokesman Alex Conant, who explained that Obama fans -- "expecting to hear one of his rally speeches" -- would feel let down by his discursions into policy.





And no, I was not bored.
Yeah, because neither of them gave such sharp and powerful arguments for the questions.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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I didn't ask you about Obama.

You didn't read my post, the whole two lines of it.

Here it is again for you, the pertinent part anyway:



Where in that do you see "Obama?"
Are those crickets I hear?
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:02 AM
 
Location: OC, CA
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lol @ this

as soon as you realized that McCain lost the debate you want to make it a lost for both of them


Obama looked at the camera, spoke about middle class America, spoke about healthcare, reached out to McCain and agreed on some points in a bipartisan effort, educated McCain on foreign policy (which supposedly McCain has the upper hand)



which debate were you watching?
Give me ONE example where you went "WOW, that WAS AMAZING" in Obama's arguments? Give me one thing he hasn't already said. He was NOT talking to "middle America" he was talking to "poor America" disguised as comments geared towards "middle America."

They both sucked big time.
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Old 09-27-2008, 02:10 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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lol @ this

as soon as you realized that McCain lost the debate you want to make it a lost for both of them

Obama looked at the camera, spoke about middle class America, spoke about healthcare, reached out to McCain and agreed on some points in a bipartisan effort, educated McCain on foreign policy (which supposedly McCain has the upper hand)

which debate were you watching?

I didn't expect anything from either of them because I don't plan on voting for either of them. I am only giving my unbiased opinion. Your partisan opinion really doesn't mean much to an independent mind.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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I think that anyone in these political debates, particulary at the national level or governor elections in states like NY, are losing, since.....
90 minutes with only 2 minutes to answer ?'s and all these rules, is too short.
I think 3 hour debate would be more appropriate and relaxing of these some of these rules.
Also, there should be 2 moderators, one "Sean Hannity" like one asking the Dem candidate questions and one "Keith Olberman" type asking the Republican questions.
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Old 09-27-2008, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Va Beach
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This is just one topic of the next few debates. Each debate will have a different one.
I'm neither Dem or Repub, but one thing I thought interesting about the debate was John McCain explained things. His knowledge and pronunciation of the places that were discussed was very educational to those that really don't understand where all the dots connect.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I just thought it was so bland....I didn't learn anything new. In a sense, I think they both lost miserably at catching my attention. I dont think either will get a poll "bounce" from this debate. And the attacks werent as sharp as they have been in the past elections.
That's my take too. It was an awful debate. Had it not been for the beer and jaeger, I would have switched to a DVD within 30 minutes. I didn't pay any attention after the first 45 minutes. Lehrer didn't get them to debate each other too well either. I was hoping for more interaction.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Give me ONE example where you went "WOW, that WAS AMAZING" in Obama's arguments? Give me one thing he hasn't already said. He was NOT talking to "middle America" he was talking to "poor America" disguised as comments geared towards "middle America."

They both sucked big time.
You and I rarely agree on anything, but this is one I think we can agree on. Obama was talking to the poorest Americans. McCain was talking to those who want to fight terrorism everywhere. Neither changed any minds.
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Old 09-27-2008, 09:30 AM
 
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This is just one topic of the next few debates. Each debate will have a different one.
I'm neither Dem or Repub, but one thing I thought interesting about the debate was John McCain explained things. His knowledge and pronunciation of the places that were discussed was very educational to those that really don't understand where all the dots connect.

Agreed. McCain also able to put events into a timeline on the foreign policy issues, which I appreciated. His knowledge is obvious and experience invaluable. He needs to work on the visual presentation of himself. Something Obama has down cold.
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