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Old 09-29-2008, 07:34 PM
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No McCain was not gung ho for the bill, but tried to make it acceptable as opposed to what the Dems originally offered. I think both Obama and McCain gave equally weak support.
they were both lame but at least this bailout train wreck has been avoided. keep moving, nothing to see.....
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:41 PM
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Well, since honoring a Jewish holiday (what percentage of the house is Jewish, anyway?) is more important than dealing with this crisis, people will see over the next few days that the sky isn't falling without a bailout.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:06 PM
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Well, since honoring a Jewish holiday (what percentage of the house is Jewish, anyway?) is more important than dealing with this crisis, people will see over the next few days that the sky isn't falling without a bailout.
I agree with that. People will wake up tomorrow and see the sky is still blue, they still have a job (if they can find any gas to get to work which is becoming impossible here) and that their lives are the same as they were a week ago. And the markets will probably go right back up. They always do.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:19 PM
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OMG - my head is spinning... we are officially in Alice in Wonderland and nothing that is is and nothing that isn't isn't....

MC CAIN was all over claiming credit for solving this mess this moring... well, gee, thanks there Mr. Maverick... I am so glad your intervening led to a $1 trillion dollar LOSS today - awesome! DUDE I hope you win then you can TOTALLY fC*K up the country! I want to see HOW MUCH WORSE it can get... until we are all living like Mad Max in the Thunderdome.... could be a BLAST!!!!!

But I digress.....

KevK - It makes me want to PUKE to think of having to foot the bill for these absoloute greedy a-holes who put our country in this mess.... from the person who overextended themselves to (EVEN MORE) the rich SOBS that profitted DEARLY from this KNOWING how bad it would be but who cares, as long as they can get the gold plated Prada golf clubs..... BUT you have to realize that if we do NOTHING The $1 trillion loss today will seem like nothing... and the credit crunch will - in the long run - hurt the little crappy taxpayer like you and me MUCH more than the rich SOB's that got us into this mess.....

WE SHOULD be thinking as a NATION now... and thinking OK - LOTS of blame to go around for how we GOT here .... jackasses that said our nation's economy if FUNDEMENTALLY STRONG just 2 weeks ago not excluded from that - LOTS of blame to go around... all parties and ideologies can share in this..... BUT WE ARE where WE ARE now and if nothing gets done... it's gonna be VERY VERY ugly.

The fact that I have watched the news tonight and seen BOTH parties play such stupid party politics makes me SICK to my stomach. IF it is true (I say if becaues we never get the full story) that 12 GOP Congress members changed their vote to NO at the last moment becuase Pelosi hurt their feelings???? OMG, then they should all be taken out and I'll give the loony NRA people hunging targets ALL of them. Becuse IF all this is true Pelosi ia an ARSE for playing politics right now and the 12 members who changed their votes are even MORE ARSES because YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AMERICAS FINANCIAL SECURITY.... this is not a game.... put on your freaking big girl or big boy panties and DEAL WITH IT..... SECOND graders have more common sense than the fools running our nation!

That said... this is NO reason to go and start supporting McCant who - had he kept his own (ME FIRST!!!) interests out of this we may have had an agreement LAST week.... but NO! Why miss a chance to f-ck things up to look like you are playing HE WO to the US when you could give a rats ass about the US or you would not have picked PALIN to be one OLD MAN heartbeat away from running our nation when you MET Barbie once......

But look - I'm a little PISSED tonight.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:20 PM
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I agree with that. People will wake up tomorrow and see the sky is still blue, they still have a job (if they can find any gas to get to work which is becoming impossible here) and that their lives are the same as they were a week ago. And the markets will probably go right back up. They always do.

FOR NOW... if the credit crisis advances... the trickle down will have fewer and fewer jobs and more and more forclosures..... but hey, as long as the politicians are happy.....
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:31 PM
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OMG - my head is spinning... we are officially in Alice in Wonderland and nothing that is is and nothing that isn't isn't....

MC CAIN was all over claiming credit for solving this mess this moring... well, gee, thanks there Mr. Maverick... I am so glad your intervening led to a $1 trillion dollar LOSS today - awesome! DUDE I hope you win then you can TOTALLY fC*K up the country! I want to see HOW MUCH WORSE it can get... until we are all living like Mad Max in the Thunderdome.... could be a BLAST!!!!!

But I digress.....

KevK - It makes me want to PUKE to think of having to foot the bill for these absoloute greedy a-holes who put our country in this mess.... from the person who overextended themselves to (EVEN MORE) the rich SOBS that profitted DEARLY from this KNOWING how bad it would be but who cares, as long as they can get the gold plated Prada golf clubs..... BUT you have to realize that if we do NOTHING The $1 trillion loss today will seem like nothing... and the credit crunch will - in the long run - hurt the little crappy taxpayer like you and me MUCH more than the rich SOB's that got us into this mess.....

WE SHOULD be thinking as a NATION now... and thinking OK - LOTS of blame to go around for how we GOT here .... jackasses that said our nation's economy if FUNDEMENTALLY STRONG just 2 weeks ago not excluded from that - LOTS of blame to go around... all parties and ideologies can share in this..... BUT WE ARE where WE ARE now and if nothing gets done... it's gonna be VERY VERY ugly.

The fact that I have watched the news tonight and seen BOTH parties play such stupid party politics makes me SICK to my stomach. IF it is true (I say if becaues we never get the full story) that 12 GOP Congress members changed their vote to NO at the last moment becuase Pelosi hurt their feelings???? OMG, then they should all be taken out and I'll give the loony NRA people hunging targets ALL of them. Becuse IF all this is true Pelosi ia an ARSE for playing politics right now and the 12 members who changed their votes are even MORE ARSES because YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AMERICAS FINANCIAL SECURITY.... this is not a game.... put on your freaking big girl or big boy panties and DEAL WITH IT..... SECOND graders have more common sense than the fools running our nation!

That said... this is NO reason to go and start supporting McCant who - had he kept his own (ME FIRST!!!) interests out of this we may have had an agreement LAST week.... but NO! Why miss a chance to f-ck things up to look like you are playing HE WO to the US when you could give a rats ass about the US or you would not have picked PALIN to be one OLD MAN heartbeat away from running our nation when you MET Barbie once......

But look - I'm a little PISSED tonight.
Ouch! Somebody need a hug (or a bit "more" than hug?!)
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:31 PM
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the end is not near EEEPNJ but i see that i am going to have to chase you around with a tranquilizer dart. stocks rise and stocks fall. some people who bet on the bailout are having a very bad day and some other people are making money. we are not printing more money and devaluating our currency and that is actually good news in the long run.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:54 PM
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Dennis Kucinich, hardly a conservative, voted against the bill along with 94 other Democrats. Limbaugh is a pill popping gas bag.
Gas bag, hun'h? You know this? Like, it's not slander is it? Or just fisting air?
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:06 PM
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Well, I don't know if people call me a liberal or a conservative but I call myself intellectually honest. I just refuse to believe 3 impossible things before breakfast (and I'll know if you are a reader if you know where that comes from.) And I refuse to believe that continuing to enable those who are ripping us off and laughing at us all the while they are doing so is a reason to turn over the keys of the treasury to the very people who put us into this mess. Let those who profited from their corrupt dealings pay for it. The day they indict these crooks, confiscate all their worldly goods, sell it and pay the company debts, make it illegal to give golden parachutes to those who have ruined a company, make the CEO take a pay cut for every person they lay off, etc. etc. then I will think about it. Until then, it the infamous words of the governor from Alaska; "Thanks but no thanks."
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:17 PM
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Well according to Rush Limbaugh I am now a conservative!! I think I am still a LIBERAL however. Why does he think I am a conservative? I guess it is because of my deeply held belief that people ought to pay for what they get and not saddle my kids with the cost. And I deeply think the Wall Street bailout is BS and I am not for handing $700 billion or more to a bunch of bankers and send the bill to my kids!
I also highly resent the way this is being done. We have politicians tripping all over themselves to bail out the rich. The same ones who sat on their asses while poor folks in New Orleans drowned or died in hospitals without power or medications.
I have a 401K too and yes, 50% of it is in the S&P indexed fund. And today I took a bath. But it is a bath I am willing to take if it means cleaning the sewage out of Wall Street. I will pay the price so my kids don't have to pay for our screw ups.
Everybody except for the banks and Wall Street tycoons should be infuriated by this mess. It is time we said NO to the special interest and the rich and powerful. If this bailout is so good, then let's have the tax increases to pay for it NOW and not later. If taxpayers think this is important, we should be willing to pay for it.
To me, it is just like National Health. I am for National Health but if having means I go to the doctor today and my kid gets the bill in 10 years, no thank you. We should pay for what we want now.
Does this make me a conservative??? Nawwwww
You do know that conservative and Republican are not necessarily interchangeable terms. You could be a conservative, or possbily a Libertarian. I think the time is right for a serious 3rd party to evolve.
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