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I trust by "somebody" you mean Chris Dodd, who in fact is the "somebody" in question. Do you think he was trying to look out for mortgage holders, of the present and the future?
I'm not announcing to you that I think that's good or bad, just - it has nothing to do with ACORN, or 20% of anything to ACORN, or Obama.
glad you asked:
What we have here essentially are a pair of government slush funds created in July as part of the Economic Recovery Act that pump tax dollars into the coffers of low-income housing advocacy groups, such as Acorn.
Acorn, one of America's most militant left-wing "community activist groups," is spending $16 million this year to register Democrats to vote in November. In the past several years, Acorn's voter registration programs have come under investigation in Ohio, Colorado, Michigan, Missouri and Washington, while several of their employees have been convicted of voter fraud.
Along with other potential recipients of these funds, including the National Council of La Raza and the Urban League, Acorn has promoted laws like the Community Reinvestment Act, which laid the foundation for the house of cards built out of subprime loans. Thus, we'd be funneling more cash to the groups that helped create the lending mess in the first place.
It is funny that all you do is call someone right of center because they told the truth. I am an Independent and you damn well bet that I will NOT vote for eother party since they both suck the big one. ACORN has been convicted a few times of election fraud so just because you do not want to believe does not make it untrue.
rightofcenter was the poster's SN.....
But please do add your knowledge of this matter.
I would love to vote for Ron Paul, but I'm sincerely fearful of the damage Obama + Dem. Congress would do to this country.
I would love to vote for Ron Paul, but I'm sincerely fearful of the damage Obama + Dem. Congress would do to this country.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Obama scares me but I just can't see me voting for either party because they all disgust me at this time. I am tired of the same ole' lesser of two evils stuff because the candidates just keep getting much worse every election. I would vote McCain only because I am pretty sure that the Dems are going to get a goodly majority in the House and the Senate. Becuase of that, having McCain would keep them in check somewhat. I like checks and balances and one can see what happens when the President and his party control Congress. Just look at Bush and the Republicans as they ran roughshod over everyone and passed whatever they wanted.
Yes, I was addressing you. Thanks for your commentary.
I posted this topic in order to shed some light on the extent of Obama's involvment with ACORN.. In my opinion, any involvment with such a dangerous and socially irresponsible group is a problem BUT I'm glad to hear that it doesn't appear his involvment was too intimate..
Unfortunatly upon further investigation it appears you may not be completely up to date on the extent of Obama's involvment with this group.. Here are some things which make it seem like it was much more than a casual association as you suggest:
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In 1995, Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar balked at implementing the federal motor voter law out of concern that letting people register via postcard and blocking the state from pruning voter rolls might invite vote fraud. A young lawyer named Barak Obama, a community organizer himself, sued on behalf of ACORN and won. ACORN later invited Obama to train its staff on voter registration drives.
In 1996 Obama ran for Illinois State Senate and ACORN became his precinct organization, identifying and turning out the vote.
When Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago, the Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its agenda and voter registration activities.
In 2004 ACORN operates as Obama’s precinct organization in his run for the U.S. Senate.
In 2007 ACORN’s national political arm endorsed Obama for president, and its “nonpartisan” voter registration affiliate starts registering hundreds of thousands of voters for Obama.
Obama claims he has no ties to “a group he once did some legal work for.”
In July 2008 the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, along with NoQuarter researchers, exposes the lie by uncovering $832,598.29 that the Obama campaign funneled through a front company called Citizens Services, Inc.
ACORN, which receives partial taxpayer funding, used those funds to conduct solicitations for contributions to and raised over $800,000 for Obama in Philadelphia alone. "
Well, he worked with them in the 80s. If he sued for them and won, that means there was a case there and he was a good lawyer, right?
Do you know who publishes the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, as long as you're doing homework?
Citizen Services Inc. - I looked at Michelle Malkin's article on this - I dont know. Could indeed be a slush fund. It's not yet out of the right wing blog thickets though it's been around for a week. Let's watch this. Although if you're running a slush fund, why would you be so obvious as to write gigantic checks for "staging and lighting"?
Before the candidates were chose, I was certain I'd be voting for Ron Paul.. I pretty much expected the same 'lesser of two evils' routine, but something is different now.
If Obama is given the presidency AND a Dem Congress in this time where we face such crisis at home and abroad I fear the damage done would be long (if not ever) lasting.
I have to know I've done everything in my powerless capacity to prevent that.
What we have here essentially are a pair of government slush funds created in July as part of the Economic Recovery Act that pump tax dollars into the coffers of low-income housing advocacy groups, such as Acorn.
Acorn, one of America's most militant left-wing "community activist groups," is spending $16 million this year to register Democrats to vote in November. In the past several years, Acorn's voter registration programs have come under investigation in Ohio, Colorado, Michigan, Missouri and Washington, while several of their employees have been convicted of voter fraud.
Along with other potential recipients of these funds, including the National Council of La Raza and the Urban League, Acorn has promoted laws like the Community Reinvestment Act, which laid the foundation for the house of cards built out of subprime loans. Thus, we'd be funneling more cash to the groups that helped create the lending mess in the first place.
As I understand it, the Capital Magnet Fund and the Housing Trust Fund are Treasury Dept. entities set up to handle the post-Fannie and Freddie wreckage. "Funneling money" to crooked potential recipients - so legal language needs to be put into place to protect those funds and restrict the crooks, eh?
In my experience with the legal system... NO.
Just because they won does not mean there was a case. Not even close.
What do you mean? Evidently the Justice Department joined the case: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/700499,CST-NWS-Obama-law17.article (broken link)
Sol Stern explains that Acorn is the key modern successor of the radical 1960’s “New Left,” with a “1960’s-bred agenda of anti-capitalism” to match. Acorn, says Stern, grew out of “one of the New Left’s silliest and most destructive groups, the National Welfare Rights Organization.” In the 1960’s, NWRO launched a campaign of sit-ins and disruptions at welfare offices. The goal was to remove eligibility restrictions, and thus effectively flood welfare rolls with so many clients that the system would burst. The theory, explains Stern, was that an impossibly overburdened welfare system would force “a radical reconstruction of America’s unjust capitalist economy.” Instead of a socialist utopia, however, we got the culture of dependency and family breakdown that ate away at America’s inner cities — until welfare reform began to turn the tide.
What a great organization! NOT!
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A Los Angeles Timespiece on Obama’s early Chicago days opens with the touching story of his efforts to build a partnership with Chicago’s “Friends of the Parks,” so that parents in a blighted neighborhood could have an inviting spot for their kids to play. This is the image of Obama’s organizing we’re supposed to hold. It’s far from the whole story, however. “Obama’s task was to help far South Side residents press for improvement” in their communities. Part of Obama’s work was to organize demonstrations, much in the mold of radical groups like Acorn.
Acorn protestors in Baltimore disrupted a bankers’ dinner and sent four busloads of profanity-screaming protestors against the mayor’s home, terrifying his wife and kids. Even a Baltimore city council member who generally supports Acorn said their intimidation tactics had crossed the line.
These are the peolpe Obama would defend and oh yes he was also a Leadership Trainer for ACORN
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The shame of it is that when the L. A. Times returned to Obama’s stomping grounds, it found the park he’d helped renovate reclaimed by drug dealers and thugs. The community organizer strategy may generate feel-good moments and best-selling books
Guess he was too busy at thug work to stay on top of the park....
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top election official announced plans to seek criminal investigations of 37 ACORN employees accused of offering gifts to sign up voters a New Mexico TV station reported on the child rapists, drug offenders and forgery convicts on ACORN's payroll. In July, Pennsylvania investigators asked the public for help in locating a fugitive named Luis R. Torres-Serrano, who is accused "of submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registration forms he collected on behalf of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now to county election officials." Also in July, a massive, nearly $1 million embezzlement scheme by top ACORN officials was exposed. the Obama campaign admitted failing to report $800,000 in campaign payments to ACORN. They were disguised as payments to a front group called "Citizen Services, Inc." for "advance work."
Is it true that the initial bill had a provision which would send approx. 20% of the 700 billion to ACORN?
Was this simply a nice thank you from the Dems who have been getting their pockets lined (and voted supplied) by ACORN?
Why isn't anyone talking about this?
Personally, I hope the Dems do fill the bill with so much pork that it never passes because my gut tells me this bailout is wrong.
we have brought this up several times here, the Obama minions could care less
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if that were Mccain, think it would be talked about??
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