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Old 10-03-2008, 11:56 AM
 
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I will be voting for McCain. The Messiah voted for it too, you know. Since I have 2 choices, and both of them voted for it, I'll be voting for McCain.

Three of my four reps voted against it. The senators from my state voted against it. Only Dennis Moore voted for it, and I will be voting against him.

theres 4 candidates running not 2
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:57 AM
 
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And you know full well that none of the other parties are going to win. If I don't for McCain, that is as good as a vote for Obama. And one thing I do know is that McCain's politics are in line with mine other than illegal immigration and this bailout. But Obama is a socialist/marxist and I will do everything I can to make sure he is not elected. And that means voting for McCain.

You vote for whichever party you like. But you don't have the right to demean others for their choice.
Better a Socialist/Marxist to run the country now that the bailout is passed though right? We just took the first steps towards it.

So you vote based on who you think will win not on issues, political views or who could be best for the country? Thanks for the argument against voting being a right.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:59 AM
 
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Better a Socialist/Marxist to run the country now that the bailout is passed though right? We just took the first steps towards it.

So you vote based on who you think will win not on issues, political views or who could be best for the country? Thanks for the argument against voting being a right.
I said I disagree with McCain on the bailout and on illegal immigration. Other than that, I agree with him. Quit acting like an ass.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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theres 4 candidates running not 2

True but in reality only 1 of the 2 can win and since will be so close if you fear Reps or Dems best to consider the man running against them.

I do not want the Dems with Pelosi running the WHOLE gvmt and they will if Obama wins.
No different than when I voted for Kerry as did not want Reps running the whole show.


One party rule equals MONSTER of a mess .

I am not thrilled with Mccain but prefer balance of power . I was leaning for Baldwin but to close here in Florida thus Mccain might be best .

Never changed my mind so much in any election started out Obama supporter
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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I thought this thread was about the bailout? Why do some people look for every opportunity to smear Obama, even when the subject matter isn't related?

I want to add something to my earlier comment. Just some food for thought. When I was in packaging, the company I worked for let a small business owner have a line of credit when nobody else would grant it. I can't mention the company name of course, but please believe me when I say it grew to be very successful. Of course my employer took a chance, but they got much more back after the businessowner expanded.

OTOH, my grandfather owned a textile company in the late 1920s. From what I understand, he wanted to save the homes of his loyal customers, so he kept helping them out until there was nothing left. Since they couldn't pay back the loans, he lost everything a few years later.

So when I think of a bailout, I think of these 2 circumstances. One had very good and profitable results and the other was disastrous.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:05 PM
 
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True but in reality only 1 of the 2 can win and since will be so close if you fear Reps or Dems best to consider the man running against them.

I do not want the Dems with Pelosi running the WHOLE gvmt and they will if Obama wins.
No different than when I voted for Kerry as did not want Reps running the whole show.


One party rule equals MONSTER of a mess .

I am not thrilled with Mccain but prefer balance of power . I was leaning for Baldwin but to close here in Florida thus Mccain might be best .
Exactly. I don't want Obama. Even though I disagree with McCain on a couple of issues, I do agree with him on the rest. And the election will be close and I don't want to throw away my vote to a third party when I can use it to keep Obama out of the White House.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:06 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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I said I disagree with McCain on the bailout and on illegal immigration. Other than that, I agree with him. Quit acting like an ass.

Difference between Mccain and Obama for amnesty is only their party . As both individuals similiar as far as that goes.

However Pelosi and Reid will jump for joy if amnesty is given thus who will stop Obama but GOP will fight Mccain on it and his VP is against it.

That is one reason why I lean now for Mccain otherwise the country might grow by another 20 to 30 million over night and it will financialy kill us
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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Better a Socialist/Marxist to run the country now that the bailout is passed though right? .
All the more reason to vote McCain.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:07 PM
 
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Democratic President + Democratic-controlled congress = Democratic programs/policies passed = No oversight = corruption = more money for the middle class


I am all for it!!

It's a me me me for me now. Me first before the country.


Obama and the liberals will grant amnesty to all illegal immigrants. All new incoming illegal immigrants will have driver's licenses. More cars on the roads. Yay!!!! I am looking forward to this. Me first before the country. And I have my TV, stereo, boat, etc.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:08 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Its passed now

700 bil will be swept out of the coffers in a tornado leaving the tax payer holding the bag
Where have I heard that before? The same metaphor is used here:

YouTube - **FLASH** The REAL REASON For The Bailout (Hint: FOREIGNERS)

One of the comments from the link below (read all the comments; they're enlightening)...

"The real question is what else is Paulson offering those central banks as inducement to hold GSE debt? As Enron demonstrated and Fannie/Freddie has proved, these wink-and-nod agreements are the true problem. You can bet Paulson is the link between the US gov't, Wall Street and foreign central banks. Who knows what deals he's cooking up between these three entities."

(GSE debt = the repackaged mortgage-backed securities Fannie/Freddie sold to investors/governments around the world; may also include Sallie Mae student loan debt.)

naked capitalism: Foreign Investors Selling Freddie, Fannie Debt
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