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View Poll Results: Did Senator McCain drop the ball on his Campaign Promise?
Yes. He should have taken a stand against the Pork, this is what he Campaigns about. 14 87.50%
No. He did the right thing to help the Economy in spite of the Bill's Pork and Earmarks. 2 12.50%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-06-2008, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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“I understand why a lot of Americans were very cynical. A lot of Americans are still cynical because we’re not big government people. We want government involved the least in our lives."

McCain warned that the legislation is “like a tourniquet, not a cure. It will stop the bleeding, but then we have to set about fixing the way we do business in Washington."
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Wow. $110Billion and Senator McCain makes no statement on the Senate floor, votes yes, and supports $49 Million for Alaska as well.

Why didn't Senator McCain take this opportunity, if there was ever an opportunity to make a stand - This Was IT!!

Do you feel confident Senator McCain will reform Washington after voting Yes for $110Billion in Earmarks and Pork with no public Senate Objection?
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:01 AM
 
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He doesn't have to. He's a maverick. Isn't that this year's "free pass" for almost anything?
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:03 AM
 
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“I understand why a lot of Americans were very cynical. A lot of Americans are still cynical because we’re not big government people. We want government involved the least in our lives."

McCain warned that the legislation is “like a tourniquet, not a cure. It will stop the bleeding, but then we have to set about fixing the way we do business in Washington."
Source

Wow. $110Billion and Senator McCain makes no statement on the Senate floor, votes yes, and supports $49 Million for Alaska as well.

Why didn't Senator McCain take this opportunity, if there was ever an opportunity to make a stand - This Was IT!!

Do you feel confident Senator McCain will reform Washington after voting Yes for $110Billion in Earmarks and Pork with no public Senate Objection?
McCain won't reform.
Obama voted for it too. Do you feel confident that he is 'change'?
Ofcourse you'll say yes, I'm aware of the double standard
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Question 3 posts and you're "tuckering"

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McCain won't reform.
Obama voted for it too. Do you feel confident that he is 'change'?
Ofcourse you'll say yes, I'm aware of the double standard
There's no double standard. This thread isn't about Senator Obama. Senator McCain campaign's ferociously against earmarks and pork barrel spending. Why didn't he make a public Senate statement and denounce this Bill? Wasn't this the perfect opportunity to stand up for what he has Campaigned about?
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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He doesn't have to. He's a maverick. Isn't that this year's "free pass" for almost anything?

"McCain took credit for driving House Republicans back into the process a week ago after the initial collapse of the bill, a point agreed to by his home state colleague Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.)"

"The reason the bill is better is because of McCain," he said.
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Wow!!
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Wantagh NY
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McCain says the first bill the runs across his desk with pork will be vetoed. "I will get their names and I will make them famous!" he says during his stump speaches.

He choose Palin who the first thing she did was hire a lobbiest to get money for her state and is the queen of pork. (Well, he did make her famous! LOL!)

Then he voted for this bail out bill?

Pluhhh-ease!
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:22 AM
 
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McCain won't reform.
Obama voted for it too. Do you feel confident that he is 'change'?
Ofcourse you'll say yes, I'm aware of the double standard
Obama didnt have the delusional temerity to announce he had to dash down to Washington to fix the economy, and thus might not be able to make the debate. Obama didnt play politics with this thing, McCain did - or tried to, but it blew up in his face.

The WH meeting with Bush was entirely a plan by one buffoon to help another buffoon look credible. Like the gentleman he is, Obama went along with that and didnt say anything about it, thus proving something McCain may have forgotten: that http://www.city-data.com/forum/2008-...y-looking.html*

Obama had called McCain that morning to suggest the two of them create a statement on the bailout - point being to show the American people that in times of crisis there should be no partisanship. McCain didnt return Obama's call, but did call Bush and ask what to do. Bush came up with the meeting idea. Only then - hours later - after George W. Bush, of all people, had told him what to do - did America's Maverick deign to return Obama's call.

Call that "presidential"? I guess if you like craven weasels.

All that said, they had to vote for the bailout. McCain's inability to "lead" the Republican Senators to go with it the first time - and the fact that the second version was an improvement over the first, anyway - proved he's about as useful and relevant as the bump on a log he portrayed so effectively in the WH Bush meeting.

But yes, McCain should have grabbed the mike afterward and established himself as the Explainer of the bailout story. Obama wouldnt have done that, it's not his style, but for a chatty fellow like McCain it was a natural. Great opportunity, thrown away.

* thread by Blue Willow Plate

Last edited by delusianne; 10-06-2008 at 06:48 AM.. Reason: * credit to thread author, "McCain should have" para
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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This a wacky form of leadership...I just don't get it.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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McCain says the first bill the runs across his desk with pork will be vetoed. "I will get their names and I will make them famous!" he says during his stump speaches.

He choose Palin who the first thing she did was hire a lobbiest to get money for her state and is the queen of pork. (Well, he did make her famous! LOL!)

Then he voted for this bail out bill?

Pluhhh-ease!
I wonder if he missed the opportunity to really show why he "suspended" his campaign.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:59 AM
 
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Because he, like all politicians, is full of s**t and will say anything, nominate anyone and do anything to be President.
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