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[pirate girl]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Clearly, Obama doesn't.

Over 300 economists have endorsed McCain's economic plan (July press release figures). That number is up to 530 economists, now, according to The Economist.

JohnMcCain.com - McCain-Palin 2008

Are any of them of Warren Buffett's caliber?

Are any of them Nobel Laureates?

Here are a few economists who support Obama. His website doesn't tout the number of economists who support him like McCain's does. But Obama is more about QUALITY versus Quantity.

Economic policy advisors:
Jason Furman (director of economic policy) source bio
Austan Goolsbee (senior economic policy advisor), University of Chicago tax policy expert source Wikipedia website
Karen Kornbluh (policy director) source bio Wikipedia
David Cutler, Harvard health policy expert source Wikipedia website
Jeff Liebman, Harvard welfare expert source Wikipedia website
Michael Froman, Citigroup executive source bio
Daniel Tarullo, Georgetown law professor source bio
David Romer, Berkeley macroeconomist source website
Christina Romer, Berkeley economic historian source website
Richard Thaler, University of Chicago behavioral finance expert source Wikipedia

Robert Rubin, former Treasury Secretary source Wikipedia bio
Larry Summers, former Treasury Secretary source Wikipedia bio
Alan Blinder, former Vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve source Wikipedia bio website
Jared Bernstein, Economic Policy Institute labor economist source bio
James Galbraith, University of Texas macroeconomist source Wikipedia website

Paul Volcker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve 1979-1987 source Wikipedia
Laura Tyson, Berkeley international economist, Bill Clinton economic adviser source Wikipedia
Robert Reich, Berkeley public policy professor, former Secretary of Labor source Wikipedia weblog
Peter Henry, Stanford international economist source website
Gene Sperling, former White House economic adviser source Wikipedia

Other prominent economists who support Obama:
Brad Delong, Berkeley macroeconomist source Wikipedia website weblog
Joseph Stiglitz, 2001 Nobel laureate source Wikipedia
Edmund Phelps, 2006 Nobel laureate source Wikipedia
Ray Fair, Yale macroeconomist source Wikipedia
Dan McFadden, 2000 Nobel laureate source website
Robert Solow, 1987 Nobel laureate source Wikipedia

Prominent finance people who support Obama:
(not actually economists)
William Donaldson, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Chair 2003-05 source Wikipedia
Arthur Levitt, SEC chair 1993-2001 source Wikipedia
David Ruder, SEC chair 1987-1989 source Wikipedia
Warren Buffet, investor, richest person in world source Wikipedia

[pirate girl]

Furthermore, do I want to vote for a candidate that has Donald Trump's support or do I think I would be better off with someone that Warren Buffett supports?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm Trump has almost gone bankrupt how many times? Trump did NOT step up to help the Wall St. bailout. And he is hardly known as a guy who give a damn about anyone other than himself.

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Those 500+ economists have analyzed regulation's vs. prohibition's economic impact. That's what economists do - analyze policies' economic impacts. You should know that.

Economists have analyzed the economic impact of both Obama's and McCain's economic plans, and 530 economists have endorsed McCain's economic plan.

If voters' main concern is the economy, and for many people it is, McCain's economic plan is the clear winner.

Hmmm.....

Sounds like some of those folks are having second thoughts. Turns out the plan they endorsed was just a set of basic principals and not really a detailed plan. While some of the signers clearly still support McCain, others probably have doubts about (at least) parts of the plan:

"In interviews with more than a dozen of the signatories, Politico found that, far from embracing McCain’s economic plan, many were unfamiliar with — or downright opposed to — key details. While most of those contacted by Politico had warm feelings about McCain, many did not want to associate themselves too closely with his campaign and its policy prescriptions."

In theory, economists support McCain - Politico.com Print View

So, I wouldn't brag too much about all those signees - folks who signed something that wasn't yet really defined.

Ken

[motoracer51]

Originally Posted by magellan

Where has Obama talked about raising taxes on small businesses? Linky would be great, thanks.

Who do you think the people making $250K/year are? Granted, some are high paid professionals, but the majority are small to large business owners.

[rightofcenter]

Originally Posted by motoracer51

Who do you think the people making $250K/year are? Granted, some are high paid professionals, but the majority are small to large business owners.

Do you have facts to back this up or are you just speculating?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by LordBalfor

Hmmm.....

Sounds like some of those folks are having second thoughts. Turns out the plan they endorsed was just a set of basic principals and not really a detailed plan. While some of the signers clearly still support McCain, others probably have doubts about (at least) parts of the plan:

"In interviews with more than a dozen of the signatories, Politico found that, far from embracing McCain’s economic plan, many were unfamiliar with — or downright opposed to — key details.

OK - let's give Obama back the 'more than a dozen' ...let's say ...20. That still leaves 510 economists that endorse McCain's economic plan.

[magellan]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

OK - let's give Obama back the 'more than a dozen' ...let's say ...20. That still leaves 510 economists that endorse McCain's economic plan.

So is McCain winning the Economist Electoral College vote?

I feel for you guys. I've been on the losing side of an election and it sucks.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pirate girl

Are any of them Nobel Laureates?

Yes, more than those who endorse Obama's plan.

Those endorsing McCain's economic plan include Nobel Prize winners in Economics: Gary Becker, James Buchanan, Robert Lucas, Robert Mundell and Vernon Smith.

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

OK - let's give Obama back the 'more than a dozen' ...let's say ...20. That still leaves 510 economists that endorse McCain's economic plan.

Your poor logic is showing.

Those "more than a dozen" are JUST the economists that were INTERVIEWED. In other words "just a sampling". The fact is, most of those folks signed a broad vague set of basic proposals BEFORE the details of the plan were determined - so their endorsement is not really of McCains' plan at all but rather the endorsement of a general set of principals. There is no evidence of how closely McCain's plan follows those principals - or even that Obama's plan doesn't follow them MORE closely.

In other words, the endorsement's are more a publicity stunt than anything else.



Ken

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by magellan

So is McCain winning the Economist Electoral College vote?

Just shows how easily manipulated people are. They'll vote against their best interest by blindly believing in hollow promises and blindly following political ideology.