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View Poll Results: Who won tonights Presidential debate?
Obama by a wide margin 140 50.36%
McCain by a wide margin 39 14.03%
Tied 28 10.07%
Obama by a small margin 49 17.63%
McCain by a small margin 22 7.91%
Voters: 278. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-07-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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What is up with Yes or No questions. Newsflash to Tom, this is a debate which requires TALKING ya idiot.
Maybe Brokaw is used to talking to Bush
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:30 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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Massachusetts healthcare plan:

"The income threshold for an individual who receives a full subsidy and does not have to pay monthly premiums for the Commonwealth Care health insurance program would increase from 100 percent of the federal poverty level ($10,210) to 150 percent ($15,315)."

Wow. If you make $7.50 an hour, the state of MA will pay for your insurance. Anyone above $15,315 gets a break on their premiums but they still have to buy h/c insurance.

I don't think $15,315 is a lot of money and if you make above that, you are required to buy insurance or you WILL BE FINED.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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Yes it did. So did others. Here's the legislative history:

* On July 31, 2003, Sununu joined Senators Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) in introducing legislation to strengthen and improve the oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This bill (S. 1508) passed the Senate Banking Committee in April 2004.

* On January 26, 2005, Sununu, Hagel, and Dole re-introduced legislation (S. 190) to improve oversight of GSE’s. A bill incorporating many provisions of the Sununu, Hagel, Dole legislation passed the Committee by a vote of 11 – 9 on July 28, 2005.

McCain's (McCain was a cosponsor of the bill) statement of support for S. 190:
"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation." - May 25, 2006
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16&bill=s109-190

* On April 12, 2007, Sununu, Hagel, Dole, and Senator Mel Martinez (R-FL) re-introduced legislation (S. 1100) to improve oversight of GSE’s. The major reforms in their bill were included in final legislation passed the Senate on July 26, 2008 and was signed into law on July 30, 2008.

http://www.politickernh.com/brianlawson/3417/sununu-statement-united-states-government-takeover-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac

The first 2 attempts at reform legislation made it out of committee, but the Dems refused to support them, so the bills never would have received the 60 votes (super-majority) required to pass cloture, and so both bills died.

Not until July of 2008 did the Dems jostle themselves out of their 'nothing's wrong at Fannie/Freddie' stupor to support the 3rd attempt at passing GSE oversight legislation.

I realize that mostly every American citizen age 18 and older has the right to vote, but everyone should learn how the American legislative process works so that their votes can't be manipulated by politicians who are relying on voters' lack of knowledge to win votes.
Like I said, SB190 never made it out of committee.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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"It has a certain zen-like quality..."

wtf
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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maybe brokaw is used to talking to bush
rofl
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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Here comes the race card....
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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That's because he earns more than $250,000 a year!
Lol! Could be!
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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What is up with Yes or No questions. Newsflash to Tom, this is a debate which requires TALKING ya idiot. (sorry, that felt good to say that on here since normally it isn't allowed)
I actually like the notion of yes/no sections. It allows the candidate to state whether or not they support an idea without getting the chance to dodge it.

There should be at least ten questions per debate in which the candidate could only respond with a yes or a no. Beyond that, their mics get cut off.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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Zen like quality. ROFL
Might as well be Zohan like quality
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:31 PM
 
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"My grandparents raised me"

Ohhhh that ends the whole "raised by a single mother" thingy!
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