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When you interview for a job, here is a hint: make sure you know what the job is. Joe Biden failed that test last Thursday. He couldn’t even get right what a vice president does, but the media didn’t notice.
The media is all over itself about how smart and experienced Biden is. Political analyst Charlie Cook is quoted in the Washington Post on Saturday as saying “Biden is clearly so much more knowledgeable, by a factor of about a million.” Saturday Night Live does a skit about Biden being smart, if slimy. Meanwhile, Governor Sarah Palin is treated as being nothing more than a simpleton.
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It might not fit the simple template for a 36-year veteran of the Senate to not understand what vice presidents do (after all, eight vice presidents have served with him), but Biden knew less about this than the political outsider, Sarah Palin. Given that they are running to be vice president, why didn’t that story dominate the news coverage after the debate?
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I stated this on the thread last week about this same topic. Jefferson was only the second VP of the US. At that time, the President didn't select his VP, it was whoever placed second in the Presidential contest. Jefferson was VP to President Adams. They were political enemies. Adams refused to give Jefferson ANY responsibilities. Jefferson hung out in the Senate, which given the number of states was essentially a gentleman's club, and spent his time laying the foundation for his own Presidency. He would hardly be a role model for a modern Vice President. The Constitution does not give the VP any authority in Congress except to cast that vote in the event of a tie. President of the Senate is an empty title. Beyond that single duty, the Constitution is silent on the role of the Vice President, leaving it to the President to determine how much responsibility to give the VP and in what capacity.
"The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided."
The Constitution only defines the limits of the VP's Senate power with regard to voting. His authority in the Senate as the "President of the Senate" is subject to interpretation.
Biden was wrong in saying that the VP can only preside over the Senate when there's a tie vote. The VP is always President of the Senate, he can only vote when there's a tie.
Honestly, it's a minor point, and given the rest of Biden's lies and gaffes, a poor one for Fox to point out. I suppose other sources scooped them on the rest of Biden's debate lies, so they had to try to find something a little more obscure.
Article I outlines the role of the Vice President when it comes to presiding over the Senate. THAT IS THE REFERENCE THAT BIDEN WAS MAKING. And he SAID that the only time the VP had a vote in the Senate was to break a tie. All of that is the exact truth. So where is this big lie or big mistake?
"The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided."
The Constitution only defines the limits of the VP's Senate power with regard to voting. His authority in the Senate as the "President of the Senate" is subject to interpretation.
Biden was wrong in saying that the VP can only preside over the Senate when there's a tie vote. The VP is always President of the Senate, he can only vote when there's a tie.
Honestly, it's a minor point, and given the rest of Biden's lies and gaffes, a poor one for Fox to point out. I suppose other sources scooped them on the rest of Biden's debate lies, so they had to try to find something a little more obscure.
The VP can preside over the Senate, but since that task is generally assigned to freshman senators as a way of getting them familiar with Senate procedures, it hardly seems like the kind of thing Palin would be interested in.
The VP can preside over the Senate, but since that task is generally assigned to freshman senators as a way of getting them familiar with Senate procedures, it hardly seems like the kind of thing Palin would be interested in.
So do you think Obama will take the role instead of Biden? He could use some more time in the hot seat.
I stated this on the thread last week about this same topic. Jefferson was only the second VP of the US. At that time, the President didn't select his VP, it was whoever placed second in the Presidential contest. Jefferson was VP to President Adams. They were political enemies. Adams refused to give Jefferson ANY responsibilities. Jefferson hung out in the Senate, which given the number of states was essentially a gentleman's club, and spent his time laying the foundation for his own Presidency. He would hardly be a role model for a modern Vice President. The Constitution does not give the VP any authority in Congress except to cast that vote in the event of a tie. President of the Senate is an empty title. Beyond that single duty, the Constitution is silent on the role of the Vice President, leaving it to the President to determine how much responsibility to give the VP and in what capacity.
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