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Honestly, I think because people are absolutely sick of hearing it. On a personal level Dems get more leeway with me then Reps do due to the last 30 years, the last 8 especially. And in their defense, its got to be hard not to remember how things snowball out of control - Swiftboating.
Yes, I agree that people get sick of hearing it; I know that I certainly do. But again, it's enjoyable watching them bury themselves. I'm very much looking forward to a Democratic win in both the presidential election and the Senate this year And I am looking forward to seeing the governor answer to the people of Alaska for her unethical and self serving behavior.
Yes, I agree that people get sick of hearing it; I know that I certainly do. But again, it's enjoyable watching them bury themselves. I'm very much looking forward to a Democratic win in both the presidential election and the Senate this year And I am looking forward to seeing the governor answer to the people of Alaska for her unethical and self serving behavior.
I'm all for the latter if it effectively kills any chance she has of even thinking of running for Pres in the future. Horrors. Wanting the Dems to win this time around goes without saying.
Earlier this year, Sarah Palin spoke at the convention of the Alaskan Independence Party, offering them cheery words and ad expressing her admiration and cheery words including:
"Keep up the good work," she told them.
"And God bless you."
Her husband Todd was a member of the party for seven years.
Sarah Palin addressed AIP conventions repeatedly during her time as mayor of Wasilla.
Now David Talbot has a piece in Salon about Joe Vogler, the "raging anti-American" who founded the Alaska Independence Party -- the party that Todd Palin belonged to for seven years, and that Palin chose to address just a few months ago.
The party that still considers Sarah Palin one of their own.
Talbot reveals that Vogler, in 1993, arranged with Iran to provide him with a global pulpit to spew his hatred of the United States:
"My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."
Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom.
The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.
That's right ... Iran.
The Islamic dictatorship.
The taker of American hostages.
The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage.
That Iran.
AIP leaders allege that Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow secessionist, was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he could reach his U.N. platform.
"The United States government would have been deeply embarrassed," by Vogler's U.N. speech, darkly suggests Clark.
"And we can't have that, can we?"
The next time some news outlet or pundit devotes a second of coverage to the Ayers nontroversy, ask them why Sarah Palin has not once been asked about her very recent, very extensive ties to a genuinely anti-American group.
Heck, seems like something even John McCain should have to address.
She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.
I know you are not that stupid so you must be purposely avoiding the point. Obama is being slain for guilt by association so Palin deserves the same. She has recently spoken at AIP functions AND she is MARRIED TO and has KIDS WITH a former member......who was a member when they were married. Talk about sleeping with the enemy. Your attempt to avoid was weak.
I know you are not that stupid so you must be purposely avoiding the point. Obama is being slain for guilt by association so Palin deserves the same. She has recently spoken at AIP functions AND she is MARRIED TO and has KIDS WITH a former member......who was a member when they were married. Talk about sleeping with the enemy. Your attempt to avoid was weak.
When was the AIP running around bombing things?
When did they run around teaching racial divide and conspiracy theories?
When did they start up slum lords and commit fraudulent real estate deals and the later apologies because they were "bone headed"?
When did they stand behind a form of government that through the past century has committed the most atrocious crimes leading to 100's of millions of deaths?
When did they fight side by side with a consistently fraudulent disenfranchising organization?
Your attempt to avoid the truth is pitiful but in now way weak as you are consumed by your pity.
When was the AIP running around bombing things? They haven't but their stance on seceding is still treason
When did they run around teaching racial divide and conspiracy theories? No instead they talked about the treasonous action of seceding from the US
When did they start up slum lords and commit fraudulent real estate deals and the later apologies because they were "bone headed"? Gotcha......so Mccain/Palin have a clean slate? Besides, two different organizations in two different time periods with two different agendas. Hard to compare platforms.
When did they stand behind a form of government that through the past century has committed the most atrocious crimes leading to 100's of millions of deaths? So you feel that all wars/attacks on foreign countries by the US are justified?
When did they fight side by side with a consistently fraudulent disenfranchising organization? You can see that on both sides...try opening your party blinded eyes a little more.
Your attempt to avoid the truth is pitiful but in now way weak as you are consumed by your pity.
Pity? Pity for who? The only pity I have is a) for us as Americans and b) those who actually believe that their party is cleaner than the other when they both have skeletons. There are those so blinded by their party affiliation that instead of realizing that their candidate is a scumbag they choose to forgive him/her for their misdeeds while chastising the other.
Ayers never killed anyone nor was he convicted of any wrong doing, same as the AIP. But it doesn't matter because both are treasonous acts and cancel each other out. With both having the connections it washes out one being better than the other.
Throughout the history of this country, politicians have always had degrees of separation from shadowy figures so that will never change. These accusations, smears and mis-truths need to stop because none of them will help our current financial situation, find Bin Laden, repair our damaged reputation in the world or get our troops back home. The pettiness of these arguments, on both sides, should be an indicator that the two party system is and has been broken.
We are being screwed during every election in regards to the choices we have for candidates....regardless of the position and it starts with people choosing a candidate based on people they may have worked with, been affiliated with or been friends with. Who gives a f**k? Best policies, plan of action and stance should win. That's it.
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And I am looking forward to seeing the governor answer to the people of Alaska for her unethical and self serving behavior.
