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Old 10-11-2008, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Breaking news???? Something that occurred over 25 years ago???? Why are you people so fixated on everything Palin, even when it's really old and irrelevant????
Because you McPalins are still trying to kick the dead horse that is called Bill Ayres from when Obama was 8 ... duh.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Default How Did Bush Get Into Yale ?

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Bush actually had a very good score, and went to an Ivy League school. To say that he's an idiot is something that's an outlandish claim if you're using an educational standard or the results of the SAT.
Bush's 1206 isn't a very good SAT score.

It's good enough to get Bush into an average college ... but not Ivy League.

Bush got into Yale thanks to his father being an alumni.

See this article:

CNN.com - How affirmative action helped George W. - Jan. 20, 2003

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If our President had the slightest sense of irony, he might have paused to ask himself, "Wait a minute. How did I get into Yale?" It wasn't because of any academic achievement: his high school record was ordinary. It wasn't because of his life experience--prosperous family, fancy prep school--which was all too familiar at Yale. It wasn't his SAT scores: 566 verbal and 640 math.
They may not have had an explicit point system at Yale in 1964, but Bush clearly got in because of affirmative action. Affirmative action for the son and grandson of alumni. Affirmative action for a member of a politically influential family. Affirmative action for a boy from a fancy prep school. These forms of affirmative action still go on.
The Wall Street Journal reported last week that Harvard accepts 40% of applicants who are children of alumni but only 11% of applicants generally. And this kind of affirmative action makes the student body less diverse, not more so. George W. Bush, in fact, may be the most spectacular affirmative-action success story of all time. Until 1994, when he was 48 years old and got elected Governor of Texas, his life was almost empty of accomplishments.
Yet bloodlines and connections had put him into Andover, Yale and Harvard Business School, and even finally provided him with a fortune after years of business disappointments. Intelligence, hard work and the other qualities associated with the concept of merit had almost nothing to do with Bush's life and success up to that point.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:09 PM
 
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Bush's 1206 isn't a very good SAT score.

It's good enough to get Bush into an average college ... but not Ivy League.

Bush got into Yale thanks to his father being an alumni.

See this article:

CNN.com - How affirmative action helped George W. - Jan. 20, 2003

Everyone thinks whatever Bush has achieved it's because of his father. That's a rather weak argument.

I'm not a big fan of GW, but like him or not he's earned his way to where he is. And he didn't cheat to get there unlike Obama Bin Laden.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:49 PM
 
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Bush's 1206 isn't a very good SAT score.

It's good enough to get Bush into an average college ... but not Ivy League.

Bush got into Yale thanks to his father being an alumni.

See this article:

CNN.com - How affirmative action helped George W. - Jan. 20, 2003
well obama got into Harvard because of a terrorist!
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Pages and pages of snarkey, snide remarks of Bush, McCain, Palin education history, schools attended, test scores, standing amongst classmates, courses taken, everything you ever wanted to know about a person posted by every writer/member of the huffington post and moveon and all the other left wing sites. Look at all the knowledge and research of 3 people. Yet isn't it amazing that none of these people have even the slightest curiousity about all the missing information, refusal of giving any information of the Obama Columbia/Harvard days?
Where are the Obama classmates, roommates, friends? Who paid for HIS education? What clubs/groups/fraternities did HE belong? What courses did HE take? What were HIS grades? What scores did HE get? What was the subject of HIS thesis? What did it say? Where is it? Why can't WE see years of Obama school records? What is he hiding? What is it that he doesn't want us to know about 'the missing years'?
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:21 PM
 
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The Palin scores are faked. McCain, however, really did graduate 894th out of 899 in his Naval Academy class.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Sarah Palin's SAT Scores? - Featured Picture on BuzzFeed

841?!?! I scored almost that high on Math and Verbal individually

Can we really afford to have a mildly functional [MOD CUT/offensive] person in the white house????
Lets be honest, is it really all that shocking?
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:27 AM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Looks like the same artist who forged this document forged Obama's birth certificate.
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Old 10-12-2008, 02:49 AM
 
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Bush's 1206 isn't a very good SAT score.

It's good enough to get Bush into an average college ... but not Ivy League.

Bush got into Yale thanks to his father being an alumni.
Being a legacy student definitely helped much more years ago. But it's foolish to think that a 1206 is an average score.

A 1206 would be scored a 1210 by today's standards of rounding off (all scores end in 0). And it's more than 2 standard deviations above the mean, putting his score in the top 5% when it was taken. The vast majority of "average colleges" offer full-scholarships to students they can attract with SATs at or above 1200 (on the old scale).

By no means would it only have been good enough to get him into an average college. It would have been considered an acceptable score by most institutions in the nation, pending the rest of the application such as GPA, extra-curriculars, etc. You can debate the worthiness of his acceptance to an Ivy League school with such a score because most have traditionally preferred 1300 or above on the old scale since the late 90's, but you cannot debate the fact that it was a very good score. I'm not even a Bush supporter nor did I vote for him, but there's no denying the stats. Good leaders are not defined by their SAT score or where they went to school, it takes a little something else that a number cannot quantify.

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Old 10-12-2008, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Arkansas
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Shocking...NO!
Amusing...YES!!!
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