Cindy McCain ****s on vets with PTSD (Iraq, interview, enemy)
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So, her old man was "tough and trained at the USNA. That's why he never suffered from it". So the infantrymen, medics, drivers, etc that suffer from it are what? [MOD CUT/language]
Why do you and your husband hate our troops so much?
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Last edited by Ibginnie; 10-10-2008 at 03:51 PM..
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MC: You met your husband after his POW days. To what extent is that still with you — or is it a part of history?
CM: My husband will be the first one to tell you that that’s in the past. Certainly it’s a part of who he is, but he doesn’t dwell on it. It’s not part of a daily experience that we experience or anything like that. But it has shaped him. It has made him the leader that he is.
MC: But no cold sweats in the middle of the night?
CM: Oh, no, no, no, no, no. My husband, he’d be the first one to tell you that he was trained to do what he was doing. The guys who had the trouble were the 18-year-olds who were drafted. He was trained, he went to the Naval Academy, he was a trained United States naval officer, and so he knew what he was doing.
Yep, SERE school sure was different for "draftees" and ocifers(sic)! Of course all that midshipmen hazing gets you right in shape for POW camp, shees, what an idjit.
If this is truly her position, no doubt influenced by her husband, then in my mind it explains a lot about her husband's attitude toward today's military.
And these people don't consider themselves elite?
Keith Olbermann focused on this last night. It is worth watching all the way through.
Not all combat vets suffer from PTSD. I don't. I did my share of combat and was wounded several times.Either I am unique, lucky or just not prone to mental illness. I do believe much like ADD it is a flavor of the month and is subject to over diagnosis. As a parent of an autistic child I get tired of parents who blame poor behaviors on ADD or autism.
PTSD is real and it happens. I personally just don't believe its as wide spread as some would have us believe.
The Code of Conduct that governed POWs was incredibly rigid; few soldiers lived up to its dictate that they "give no information . . . which might be harmful to my comrades." Under the code, POWs are bound to give only their name, rank, date of birth and service number — and to make no "statements disloyal to my country." Soon after McCain hit the ground in Hanoi, the code went out the window. "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital," he later admitted pleading with his captors. McCain now insists the offer was a bluff, designed to fool the enemy into giving him medical treatment. In fact, his wounds were attended to only after the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a Navy admiral. What has never been disclosed is the manner in which they found out: McCain told them. According to Dramesi, one of the few POWs who remained silent under years of torture, McCain tried to justify his behavior while they were still prisoners. "I had to tell them," he insisted to Dramesi, "or I would have died in bed."
Not all combat vets suffer from PTSD. I don't. I did my share of combat and was wounded several times.Either I am unique, lucky or just not prone to mental illness. I do believe much like ADD it is a flavor of the month and is subject to over diagnosis. As a parent of an autistic child I get tired of parents who blame poor behaviors on ADD or autism.
PTSD is real and it happens. I personally just don't believe its as wide spread as some would have us believe.
I honor your service and wounds. While it may be overdiagnosed, let's remember that the people doing the diagnosing are trained doctors, who in some cases are being chastised and overuled on their diagnoses.
I think it's a lot different from "combat fatigue" in WWII, which was recognized, and was known to be "treatable" with a few days rest from front line stress, hot food and showers, despite what the movie "Patton" showed.
While most combat troops (a very small minority of all troops) in Viet-Nam were definitely subject to the daily stress that can bring on PTSD, in Iraq, EVERYONE is subject to those stresses. Why else would we be fast approaching, if we haven't already passed our 100 FEMALE combat death.
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