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10-12-2008, 09:10 AM
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The Obama fans seem to forget that the hate and rasicm started with Rev. Wright who was Obama's spirital mentor
The Obama fans are so shocked of what is happening at McCain's rally's and the outburst of McCain/Palin fans.
It all started with Rev. Wright and his remarks, than Father Pfleger, before even other friends of Obama like Farakhan, William Ayers, all people associated with Obaam who hate this country and anybody who is thinking different than they do....so why do they blame McCain/Palin?
I guess it is easier to blame others and sitting in a church on Sunday and listen to hate towards others than to step away from it!
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10-12-2008, 09:11 AM
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Keep It Simple
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Trust me, the hate and racism has always been there.
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10-12-2008, 09:12 AM
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Need a good session of people-watching
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bentlebee
The Obama fans are so shocked of what is happening at McCain's rally's and the outburst of McCain/Palin fans.
It all started with Rev. Wright and his remarks, than Father Pfleger, before even other friends of Obama like Farakhan, William Ayers, all people associated with Obaam who hate this country and anybody who is thinking different than they do....so why do they blame McCain/Palin?
I guess it is easier to blame others and sitting in a church on Sunday and listen to hate towards others than to step away from it!
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I guess you think it is!
Obama fans dont yell "Kill him!" and "Off with his head." This is an old topic done to death already.
(And what's with you people who say "THEY did it FIR-IRST" - didnt your parents teach you about that?)
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10-12-2008, 09:17 AM
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Yeah, Wright said some horrible things. Obama denounced that and has cut the guy out of his life. Let's not forget that McCain also had his own ranting radical preacher problems.
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10-12-2008, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Centaurmyst
Yeah, Wright said some horrible things. Obama denounced that and has cut the guy out of his life. Let's not forget that McCain also had his own ranting radical preacher problems.
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It took him 20 years and only after the media reported it otherwise he would still be sitting there!
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10-12-2008, 09:25 AM
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Not this Time
Quote:
Originally Posted by bentlebee
The Obama fans are so shocked of what is happening at McCain's rally's and the outburst of McCain/Palin fans.
It all started with Rev. Wright and his remarks, than Father Pfleger, before even other friends of Obama like Farakhan, William Ayers, all people associated with Obaam who hate this country and anybody who is thinking different than they do....so why do they blame McCain/Palin?
I guess it is easier to blame others and sitting in a church on Sunday and listen to hate towards others than to step away from it!
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Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy - particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.
But I have asserted a firm conviction - a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people - that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice is we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.
In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world's great religions demand - that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother's keeper, Scripture tells us. Let us be our sister's keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well.
For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle - as we did in the OJ trial - or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.
We can do that.
But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.
That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, "Not this time." - Senator Obama
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10-12-2008, 09:29 AM
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Hate and racism is as old as man. What is remarkable is that we have come this far. My parents worked hard to not pass on the fear and loathing they were taught as children, and as parents, we continued the practice, and it lessens and lessens, but it will remain always. All you can do is pity the hardened hearts that continue to live with unfounded fear and hate for melatonin.
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10-12-2008, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bentlebee
The Obama fans are so shocked of what is happening at McCain's rally's and the outburst of McCain/Palin fans.
It all started with Rev. Wright and his remarks, than Father Pfleger, before even other friends of Obama like Farakhan, William Ayers, all people associated with Obaam who hate this country and anybody who is thinking different than they do....so why do they blame McCain/Palin?
I guess it is easier to blame others and sitting in a church on Sunday and listen to hate towards others than to step away from it!
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Dont fight it:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/2008-...upporters.html
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10-12-2008, 09:33 AM
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What the mofo?!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walidm
Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy - particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.
But I have asserted a firm conviction - a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people - that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice is we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.
In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world's great religions demand - that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother's keeper, Scripture tells us. Let us be our sister's keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well.
For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle - as we did in the OJ trial - or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.
We can do that.
But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.
That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come
her and say, "Not this time." - Senator Obama
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Obamas a great orator, of that there can be no doubt. But he didn't answer, why would you sit in a church for twenty years and not be disgusted enough to leave? If mccains pastor and identified mentor for twenty years blamed 'black folks' repeatedly from the pulpit for everything that is wrong in this world you would be screaming for blood --- and you know it.
This and this alone is what has me at odds with obama supporters, their refusal to discuss legitimate concerns without trying to deflect from the issue (well, mccain did/said or bush did/said) or start waving the racist card about.
But hey, prove me wrong.....tell me that if rev wright had been a white preacher and close friend for twenty years to mccain and regularily blamed 'black folks' from everything to aids to poverty to 9/11 would you or would you not be angry? Or would you be as nonplussed as you are now?
Oh, and hagee was not mccains pastor --- he was some nutjob that said he will vote for mccain ...... kinda like farrakhan doing the same for obama.
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