Obama the Socialist. (health care, votes, Congress, Liberalism)

[BigJon3475]

1. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

2. Universal Health Care.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

3. Death tax of up to 45% up to $3.5 million.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/06/smal...ion=2008080610

4. Global Poverty Act
http://www.heritage.org/research/foreignaid/wm1878.cfm

5. Even if he does not come right out and say it he supports tighter gun control and possibly banning of guns.
“If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’’ Obama said. But the Illinois senator could still see skeptics in the crowd, particularly on the faces of several men at the back of the room.
So he tried again. “Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’’ he said. “This can’t be the reason not to vote for me. Can everyone hear me in the back? I see a couple of sportsmen back there. I’m not going to take away your guns.’’
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/0...our-guns-away/

6. Paying people for community service so they can go to school. 100 hours for up to $4,000. In other words $40/hr to people that are inexperienced straight out of high school.
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008...ffer_4000.html

Norman Thomas:
"The American people would never vote for socialism but under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program".

Khrushchev:
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you"

Marx:
capitalism itself will be displaced by communism, a classless society which emerges after a transitional period—socialism—in which the state would be nothing else but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.


Is this really want you want?

Once you go to communism you don't go back without a revolution and most likely you'll just be exterminated if we go by what history tells us. Religion will be removed completely and we will lose our ability to practice it. Guns will be outlawed. Ohh.... if you want to know the rest just go through history we are repeating it.

[whatnamecanido]

2.) If you saw his health care plan..it's not the same as universal health care.

Already makes me question all the other things you are attempting to say.

[fruitlassie]

Thanks for that list, just makes me all the more excited to vote for him!

[BigJon3475]

Originally Posted by whatnamecanido

2.) If you saw his health care plan..it's not the same as universal health care.

Already makes me question all the other things you are attempting to say.

I added supporting info.

[BigJon3475]

Well this is not really for the communist but I'm sure you guys will make yourself clear. I'm just tired of seeing people that are being jipped with the name of Liberalism being stuck on it.

[Nanny Goat]

It's just fear of change. Obama, I really think, is gonna reach across the aisle, creating benefit for everyone. I don't think it's gonna be like conservatives are imagining. More moderate change I think.

[BigJon3475]

Originally Posted by Phoenix lady

It's just fear of change. Obama, I really think, is gonna reach across the aisle, creating benefit for everyone. I don't think it's gonna be like conservatives are imagining. More moderate change I think.

Change?

You act like this is some new wonderful idea let's look at the ones that already practice it:

Cuba: Cuba is one of the most Socialist nations, as it has a mostly state-run economy, universal healthcare, government-paid education at all levels, and a number of of social programs. It does not have a stock exchange.

North Korea: The same is true of North Korea, which has an almost entirely state-run economy, as well as the same social programs mentioned for Cuba. Like Cuba, North Korea does not have a stock exchange.

Venezuela: Economy has more private ownership, but the government social programs are quite extensive and the foreign policy is very left-wing. Cuban doctors and teachers have been brought to Venezuela to provide some medical and educational services.

China: A substantial part of the economy is still state-run, although there are not as many social programs as there once were and universal healthcare has been eliminated. Still has a Socialist-type foreign policy, for the most part.

Vietnam: A significant part of the economy is state-run. Close ties with Cuba, Venezuela, and Belarus.

Syria: Although not commonly referred to as Socialist in the West, Syria has a mostly state-run economy and universal healthcare, along with a left-wing foreign policy.

Belarus: Much of the Belarussian economy is state-run and some govt. social programs are available. Belarus has close ties with Venezuela, China, and other Socialist countries.

Sweden: Mostly private industry, but many well-funded govt. social programs are offered. Universal healthcare and government-provided education at all levels is made available.

[paperhouse]

socialism /= communism.

McCain voted for a socialist bailout of wall street. Why do you ignore that? He also wants to purchase bad mortgages, unless that's changed again.

[BigJon3475]

Originally Posted by paperhouse

socialism /= communism.

McCain voted for a socialist bailout of wall street. Why do you ignore that? He also wants to purchase bad mortgages, unless that's changed again.

We have two choices. One or the other. So McCain's one vote equals a socialist agenda through and through. If we are going to keep moving further away from the American idea of by the people for the people then we need to do it as slow as possible.

[Positiveone]

Oh its a fact that obama is a socialist, thats not an opinion its a fact. Also we cant forget his dangerous ties to those who hate America. He needs to be stopped soon, get who you can to vote for McCain/Palin.

Save America from obama! We cant afford another 4-8 years of hell!

Originally Posted by BigJon3475

1. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

2. Universal Health Care.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Health Care

3. Death tax of up to 45% up to $3.5 million.
The estate tax: McCain vs. Obama - Aug. 6, 2008

4. Global Poverty Act
The Global Poverty Act: The Wrong Track for U.S. Aid Policy

5. Even if he does not come right out and say it he supports tighter gun control and possibly banning of guns.
“If you’ve got a gun in your house, I’m not taking it,’’ Obama said. But the Illinois senator could still see skeptics in the crowd, particularly on the faces of several men at the back of the room.
So he tried again. “Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’’ he said. “This can’t be the reason not to vote for me. Can everyone hear me in the back? I see a couple of sportsmen back there. I’m not going to take away your guns.’’
Washington Wire - WSJ.com : Obama: 'I'm Not Going to Take Your Guns Away'

6. Paying people for community service so they can go to school. 100 hours for up to $4,000. In other words $40/hr to people that are inexperienced straight out of high school.
Obama says he will offer $4,000 tuition tax credit - Muskegon Chronicle - MLive.com

Norman Thomas:
"The American people would never vote for socialism but under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program".

Khrushchev:
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you"

Marx:
capitalism itself will be displaced by communism, a classless society which emerges after a transitional period—socialism—in which the state would be nothing else but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.


Is this really want you want?

Once you go to communism you don't go back without a revolution and most likely you'll just be exterminated if we go by what history tells us. Religion will be removed completely and we will lose our ability to practice it. Guns will be outlawed. Ohh.... if you want to know the rest just go through history we are repeating it.