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Old 10-13-2008, 10:40 AM
 
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Here is a link to the actual Senate version of a bill that will end secret ballots for groups that want to organize a union. Under the link, I have copied the co-sponsors of the bill and highlighted Mr. Obama.

Notice the language of the Sec. 2. if a majority of workers in a business sign a card stating they want a Union, then there will be no election (as there is now), where the workers get to vote in secret.
This will allow unions that we all know are corrupt and rife with organized crime to intimidate people into voting for unionization.

Somebody that likes Obama, please explain how you can support him given these facts?????




http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110dxXaAx::


Mr. KENNEDY (for himself, Mr. DODD, Mr. HARKIN, Ms. MIKULSKI, Mr. BINGAMAN, Mrs. MURRAY, Mr. REED, Mrs. CLINTON, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. SANDERS, Mr. BROWN, Mr. BYRD, Mr. INOUYE, Mr. BIDEN, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. BAUCUS, Mr. LEVIN, Mr. KERRY, Mr. ROCKEFELLER, Mr. REID, Mr. CONRAD, Mr. KOHL, Mr. LIEBERMAN, Mr. AKAKA, Mrs. FEINSTEIN, Mr. DORGAN, Mrs. BOXER, Mr. FEINGOLD, Mr. WYDEN, Mr. DURBIN, Mr. JOHNSON, Ms. LANDRIEU, Mr. SCHUMER, Mr. BAYH, Mr. CARPER, Ms. STABENOW, Ms. CANTWELL, Mr. NELSON of Florida, Mr. LAUTENBERG, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. CARDIN, Mr. WEBB, Mr. CASEY, Mrs. MCCASKILL, Ms. KLOBUCHAR, Mr. WHITEHOUSE, and Mr. TESTER) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions



SEC. 2. STREAMLINING UNION CERTIFICATION .

(a) In General- Section 9(c) of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 159(c)) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(6) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, whenever a petition shall have been filed by an employee or group of employees or any individual or labor organization acting in their behalf alleging that a majority of employees in a unit appropriate for the purposes of collective bargaining wish to be represented by an individual or labor organization for such purposes, the Board shall investigate the petition. If the Board finds that a majority of the employees in a unit appropriate for bargaining has signed valid authorizations designating the individual or labor organization specified in the petition as their bargaining representative and that no other individual or labor organization is currently certified or recognized as the exclusive representative of any of the employees in the unit, the Board shall not direct an election but shall certify the individual or labor organization as the representative described in subsection (a).
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:13 PM
 
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*Bump*

Any takers?
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:46 PM
 
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I guess nobody carese that Obama wants non-union workers to end up with broken legs.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:51 PM
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Very good posting. That alone could make McCain win NC.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:52 PM
 
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Your link leads to a dead search. Post the title of the legislation.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:55 PM
 
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It looks to me as if it's just skipping an extra step, an election. The majority already proves what an election would, without loss of time in which voters could be swayed. So an election isnt necessary.

? I dont get your point. Is it that it should be the other way around - a (secret) election instead of a petition? Whats 'the "authorizations" step?

Ive never worked in a unionized place so I dont know.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:22 PM
 
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Your link leads to a dead search. Post the title of the legislation.
It's called the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA)
HR 800 EH

The misnamed Employee Free Choice Act effectively eliminates secret ballot union elections and strips workers of their privacy.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Lab...ad/bg_2175.pdf
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:22 PM
 
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Your link leads to a dead search. Post the title of the legislation.
Employee Free Choice Act of 2007

HR 800 EH
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:26 PM
 
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It looks to me as if it's just skipping an extra step, an election. The majority already proves what an election would, without loss of time in which voters could be swayed. So an election isnt necessary.

? I dont get your point. Is it that it should be the other way around - a (secret) election instead of a petition? Whats 'the "authorizations" step?

Ive never worked in a unionized place so I dont know.

Right now a group that wants to unionize has to get a petition that has a certain % of the workforce. once that number has been reached, the National Labor Board (I think) sets up an election where each worker gets to cast a vote for or against by secret ballot.


if that process is done away with. Unions can go into any business, bully the workers and get a petition signed by intemidation.

there is no recourse for the workers to have their say privately like you and I have on election day.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:26 PM
 
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It's here, scarlet.

GovTrack: H.R. 800: Text of Legislation, Placed on Calendar Senate
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