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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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"Intellectuals" are known for doddering and dithering issues to death and can't get past discussion/debate. They can spend ungodly amounts of time weighing a fine point of law but are incapable of charting a direct course and plan of action. Look at Obama's explanation for rejecting the "Born Alive" bill that everyone else passed, including the U.S. Congress, and which the abortion rights giant NARAL declared was satisfactory for protecting abortion rights. Obama dithered and debated, suggesting it would imply a Constitutional problem that no one else found.

THIS is the do-nothing mindset that Obama's "intellectualism" represents.
Do-Nothing Mindset? C'mon.

The opposite side of the spectrum would be someone who acts first, asks questions later. Obviously Iraq is proof that this mindset doesnt work either.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:18 PM
 
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There's book learning and then there's real life, hands on learning. Obama lacks the latter.
Yes like turning down making millions in N.Y. to go back to Chicago and work with the real people.

I bet Obama has ahd hands on learning and real life experiences more then you and I have put together.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Nothing wrong with having an educated president. Just as long as he is not a lawyer. Lawyers are not the most honest people.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:19 PM
 
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Do-Nothing Mindset? C'mon.

The opposite side of the spectrum would be someone who acts first, asks questions later. Obviously Iraq is proof that this mindset doesnt work either.
Bush was very intellectual. He knew everything about Iraq before taking it over. Such a intellectual move.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes +
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Some people dont want a President who is seen as an Intellectual? I wonder why? Why do people think they want someone that is just like them? Why not support for someone who may be smarter than themselves? My guess is fear. They fear being taken out of their comfort zone. At the same time, how many people shoot animals from helicopters?

Commentary: Will 'intellectual' label hurt Obama? - CNN.com
Obama is not a bonafide intellectual despite the label imposed on him. He is a smart, well-educated guy with an equilibrium about him that makes for good judgment.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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There's book learning and then there's real life, hands on learning. Obama lacks the latter.
If Obama has no real life learning, how did he manage to beat Hillary Clinton? She's quite an opponent, I think you need more than just "book learning" to go up against her.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Earth
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"Intellectuals" are known for doddering and dithering issues to death and can't get past discussion/debate. They can spend ungodly amounts of time weighing a fine point of law but are incapable of charting a direct course and plan of action. Look at Obama's explanation for rejecting the "Born Alive" bill that everyone else passed, including the U.S. Congress, and which the abortion rights giant NARAL declared was satisfactory for protecting abortion rights. Obama dithered and debated, suggesting it would imply a Constitutional problem that no one else found.

THIS is the do-nothing mindset that Obama's "intellectualism" represents.
Bush was educated at Yale. He was a failed businessman many times over.
He's a big failure who was voted person they'd like to have a beer with. Duh.

Nothing to worry about with McCain then:
From wikianswers:
McCain ranked #894 of 899 according to: The Haze Filter: January 27, 2008 - February 2, 2008 Archives

So, if you want to look at it as a percentage (894/899)100 = 99.44

In other words, 99.44% of the class was smarter than he was.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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Education creates more functioning brain cells. It provides a construct for thinking, so that before you make a decision, you base it on known facts and extrapolation, to mitigate as many unforeseen forces and results as possible. It would be a great thing to have a President who has his/her cabinet present the different sides of an argument and have the President be able to understand them and make a decision based on the cumulative knowledge of experts.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Do-Nothing Mindset? C'mon.

The opposite side of the spectrum would be someone who acts first, asks questions later. Obviously Iraq is proof that this mindset doesnt work either.
You're right -- the extremes never work. And that's why I was such a strong Hillary supporter -- high intellect AND deliberate action.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 01:22 PM
 
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^That is really stereotyping it. Most of the highest educated CEOs are republicans.

Al ot of the union, labor workers in the cities are uneducated and vote democrat.
Actually, most union members are highly educated since they are in high tech fields now.
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