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Old 10-14-2008, 06:38 AM
 
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Default Obama and Acorn - Comm. Organizers, Phony Voters and Your Tax Dollars

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The Obama campaign is now distancing itself from Acorn, claiming Mr. Obama never organized with it and has nothing to do with illegal voter registration. Yet it's disingenuous to channel cash into an operation with a history of fraud and then claim you're shocked to discover reports of fraud. As with Rev. Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers, Mr. Obama was happy to associate with Acorn when it suited his purposes. But now that he's on the brink of the Presidency, he wants to disavow his ties.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:23 AM
 
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Mr. Obama was happy to associate with Acorn when it suited his purposes.
As were John McCain, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Perry, Joe Lieberman, Mike Bloomberg, Charlie Crist, Mitt Romney, and the Department of Justice (who joined ACORN as a plaintiff in ACORN v. Edgar, the case Obama worked on for ACORN).

”We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform," [Bertha Lewis, Acorn's chief organizer] said.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:38 AM
 
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First...it was individual canvassers who committed fraud. They wanted to get paid for not doing any work. ACORN has cooperated fully in exposing these individuals and those guilty were fired. While ACORN has not done as much as it needs to do to prevent this from happening, they were also defrauded.

Second...John McCain has been the featured speaker for ACORN sponsored events. He did this even after this same voter registration issue has come up before. If he TRULY thought ACORN was at fault for what has happened he never would have agreed to be their keynote speaker so many times.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:49 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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First...it was individual canvassers who committed fraud. They wanted to get paid for not doing any work. ACORN has cooperated fully in exposing these individuals and those guilty were fired. While ACORN has not done as much as it needs to do to prevent this from happening, they were also defrauded.

Second...John McCain has been the featured speaker for ACORN sponsored events. He did this even after this same voter registration issue has come up before. If he TRULY thought ACORN was at fault for what has happened he never would have agreed to be their keynote speaker so many times.
This (and the post by Delusianne above it) pretty effectively answer the claims I think.

Acorn clearly has a problem (though it's not necessarily systemic) but it really has nothing to do with Obama - though that won't stop the Obamabashers from trying to make it appear so.

Ken
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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ACORN-hating is the new Swift-boating.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Every voter they registered should be investigated even if it means delaying the election and Congress should pass a new law that only people who register at the county clerk's office be allowed to vote. The county clerk should have the tools to verify if the registration is legal right there on the spot. If ACORN wants to help with voter registration, their job can be driving people to the County Clerk's office to register. If the County Clerk's office is overwhelmed, registration should end at least 6 months before the election.

Oh yeah, and no more Congressional pork for ACORN.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Every voter they registered should be investigated even if it means delaying the election and Congress should pass a new law that only people who register at the county clerk's office be allowed to vote. The county clerk should have the tools to verify if the registration is legal right there on the spot. If ACORN wants to help with voter registration, their job can be driving people to the County Clerk's office to register. If the County Clerk's office is overwhelmed, registration should end at least 6 months before the election.

Oh yeah, and no more Congressional pork for ACORN.
Does the word "overreaction" mean anything to you?

These are registrations we're talking about. ACORN is required by law to turn in every registration that they collect (we don't want groups picking and choosing which ones to turn in, do we?). And ACORN does the hard work of gathering registrations from the poorest communities - people are very mobile, they often lack required documentation, it's often hard to get them engaged in the electoral process, etc.

Christ, you guys bash ACORN as if they are doing something bad. THEY'RE REGISTERING VOTERS! IT'S A GOOD THING!

The county clerks try to weed out the duplicate ones, and ACORN tries to find the fraudulent ones.

In any event, bogus registration DOES NOT EQUAL another vote!
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:05 AM
 
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Every voter they registered should be investigated even if it means delaying the election and Congress should pass a new law that only people who register at the county clerk's office be allowed to vote. The county clerk should have the tools to verify if the registration is legal right there on the spot. If ACORN wants to help with voter registration, their job can be driving people to the County Clerk's office to register. If the County Clerk's office is overwhelmed, registration should end at least 6 months before the election.

Oh yeah, and no more Congressional pork for ACORN.
Excellent post!
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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And then there's this:

Obama shields ACORN from Criminal Prosecution in the Economic Crisis
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:32 AM
 
Location: WA
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*Yawn*
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