Why Republican/Neocon Men Hate Obama (Hillary Clinton, Americans, speech, ideology)

[JavaPhil]

So, every man who doesn't want to vote for Obama is either

A: a racist bigot

B: an ugly, unfulfilled, unsuccessful wannabe

C: unwilling to see his little light shine on America

D: Jealous

Can I opt for none of the above?

I don't agree with McCain, and I don't agree with Obama. But because I don't want either, I must be one of the above? The logic escapes me, somehow. It used to be that a man could voice his opinion, and in the "Real America", he could do it without being ridiculed because he had firm beliefs (right, wrong or indifferent). Same sort of thing with religion.

The options given above are on a par with the question, "When did you stop beating your wife?" No single answer given can prevent you from looking bad to your audience. If you answer, "I haven't", you are a wife-beater, and if you answer "I have." you WERE a wife-beater. I disagree with both parties, hence I must be a disengenuous, jealous, unfulfilled bigot.

There ARE other answers.

[njchick]

[quote=Sunil's Dad;5808903]

Originally Posted by njchick

Bush has done well for our country? In what way?

Bush has been President for 8 years with a Republican Congress (and judiciary). They have had a veto-eligible majority in Congress for 2 years. But Pelosi, etc. should take responsibility for the problems. This simply defies logic.

This is OT, so briefly... I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just saying there are many who don't despise Bush as the media want us to believe. He's kept us safe (this is important to me because living in the NYC metro area I experienced 9/11 firsthand). The economy was in decent shape until the excessive bad lending which was mainly due to pressuring by the libs (Freddie/Fannie/Acorn) to lend to anyone and everyone, qualified or not. Bush's only mistake was to try to hard to work with the Dems.

[Lucario]

[quote=njchick;5811674]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

This is OT, so briefly... I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I'm just saying there are many who don't despise Bush as the media want us to believe. He's kept us safe (this is important to me because living in the NYC metro area I experienced 9/11 firsthand). The economy was in decent shape until the excessive bad lending which was mainly due to pressuring by the libs (Freddie/Fannie/Acorn) to lend to anyone and everyone, qualified or not. Bush's only mistake was to try to hard to work with the Dems.

Bush tried to work with the Democrats? He and the Tom DeLays, etc., shut them out of every major decision.

[njchick]

[quote=Sunil's Dad;5811724]

Originally Posted by njchick

Bush tried to work with the Democrats? He and the Tom DeLays, etc., shut them out of every major decision.

Well off hand I was unhappy with his caving in on immigration and spending, but yes, I think from the beginning of his two terms he made an effort to work with them.

[JerseyG]

[quote=Sunil's Dad;5808903]

Originally Posted by njchick

Bush has done well for our country? In what way?

Bush has been President for 8 years with a Republican Congress (and judiciary). The Dems have had a veto-eligible majority in Congress for 2 years. But Pelosi, etc. should take responsibility for the problems. This simply defies logic.

What's Obama going to change? Really?

What simply defies logic is that too many fail to understand that congress runs the county. Republican majority or Democratic majority. The sitting POTUS will veto or pass according to what the party he/she is associated with demands. On a good day.

You want things done or changed? Stop voting for morons when state Senate and Representative elections come up. The POTUS is a fall- guy/scapegoat anymore. Commander in Chief? Based on what? Clinton ran to Canada and hid, Bush dabbled in the military and Obama and his wife aren't too keen on the country they live in... The military friends I have, and they live on base, have no respect for Obama. No matter how much or how little influence the CIC actually has, McCain as a POW vs Obama and his pansy-arse attitude...well McCain wins on military bases this round.

I don't understand people who vote based on abortion or gay rights. Roe V Wade will never get overturned, yet people vote based on how a POTUS candidate feels about abortion or gay marriage (state rights, as of now). It's sooo much bigger than that.

Nobody, in my humble opinion, really, really seems to care about this country. They're all in it to get into a position of power and once they get to that position, they play partisan politics. There should be a law that states you cannot have ever made more than $250K per year to be elegible to run for any office.

That would shake things up a bit. Millionaires are the ones running this country - on both sides. They either have major guilt or major egos and that decides on how they vote while taking up space in congress.

As a side...Pelosi is a screaming, flaming joke. She always has been and always will be. She wipes her rear-end with 100 dollar bills and her husband recycles them and pays the illegals running their vineyards with them.

[TillyT]

Who?Me? And he is young, handsome, intelligent..posted by Who?Me?

Is THAT what swayed your vote???, You're forgetting something aren't you? Starts with S for stupid and ends with B. You fill that in with whatever happens to be your flavor of the moment.

[Who?Me?!]

Originally Posted by JavaPhil

So, every man who doesn't want to vote for Obama is either

A: a racist bigot

B: an ugly, unfulfilled, unsuccessful wannabe

C: unwilling to see his little light shine on America

D: Jealous

Can I opt for none of the above?

I don't agree with McCain, and I don't agree with Obama. But because I don't want either, I must be one of the above? The logic escapes me, somehow. It used to be that a man could voice his opinion, and in the "Real America", he could do it without being ridiculed because he had firm beliefs (right, wrong or indifferent). Same sort of thing with religion.

The options given above are on a par with the question, "When did you stop beating your wife?" No single answer given can prevent you from looking bad to your audience. If you answer, "I haven't", you are a wife-beater, and if you answer "I have." you WERE a wife-beater. I disagree with both parties, hence I must be a disengenuous, jealous, unfulfilled bigot.

There ARE other answers.

The options are on par with the thread that said liberal women were just jealous of Palin....this is my "Stop the Sexism"rebuttal.

[JerseyG]

[quote=njchick;5811794]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

Well off hand I was unhappy with his caving in on immigration and spending, but yes, I think from the beginning of his two terms he made an effort to work with them.

Yep...me too.

I'm in the same boat you are, don't love either one of them. After doing my own due diligence and finding LESS reasons to not vote for McCain than Barry...I'm going to drag myself to the polls and vote for McCain. If not for anything else than to cancel out one vote for Barry...in the HUGE blue state I live in. I shouldn't even bother, but it will be one less vote for the charasmatic blow-hard who has iffy ties to a lot of iffy people, organizations, etc.

People who are voting for Obama based on the color of his skin and nothing else...pathetic. And that includes Colin Powell. When Powell gave his Barry endorsement I couldn't find one thing, not one thing, that convinced me that he was supporting Barry for any other issue than the fact that Barry is black. And I really like Powell. What a huge let down.

[Who?Me?!]

Originally Posted by TillyT

Who?Me? And he is young, handsome, intelligent..posted by Who?Me?

Is THAT what swayed your vote???, You're forgetting something aren't you? Starts with S for stupid and ends with B. You fill that in with whatever happens to be your flavor of the moment.

Come back when you're sober....I have no idea what you're talking about.


This thread is an answer to the thread saying liberal women are just jealous of Palin.

[njchick]

[quote=JerseyG;5812198]

Originally Posted by njchick

Yep...me too.

I'm in the same boat you are, don't love either one of them. After doing my own due diligence and finding LESS reasons to not vote for McCain than Barry...I'm going to drag myself to the polls and vote for McCain. If not for anything else than to cancel out one vote for Barry...in the HUGE blue state I live in. I shouldn't even bother, but it will be one less vote for the charasmatic blow-hard who has iffy ties to a lot of iffy people, organizations, etc.

People who are voting for Obama based on the color of his skin and nothing else...pathetic. And that includes Colin Powell. When Powell gave his Barry endorsement I couldn't find one thing, not one thing, that convinced me that he was supporting Barry for any other issue than the fact that Barry is black. And I really like Powell. What a huge let down.

I assume you live in Jersey too, lol... voting in this state seems an exercise in futility, but I will be voting McCain also. As for Powell, somehow that didn't surprise me, although to go from being a soft Republican to supporting a leftist like Obama is quite a big turnaround. Your probably right that it is racism plain and simple.