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Old 10-15-2008, 11:44 AM
 
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Yesterday they announced that they will be closing the GM plant in Janesville, WI right before Christmas. That is the oldest GM plant still in operation in the U.S. It is 4 million square feet big. At one time this plant employed over 7000 people and was the life blood of the commuity. These are the working people who finally made it to the point that they believed themselves to be the "middle class." They made a decent living, had good benefits, owned their own houses, sent their kids to college. They had achieved the American Dream. And, having achieved it, they did a foolish thing. They voted against their own best interest and they lost it all. See, they listened to the republican rhetoric. They had good family values and they believed the republicans when they said they were the party of family values. They worked hard for their money and they believed the republican rhetoric that the democrats just wanted to take their hard earned money and give it all away to a bunch of lazy bums on welfare. They were loyal Americans and they believed the republican rhetoric that democrats were anti-American. They like their guns and hunting and they believed the republican rhetoric that the democrats would take their guns. So they voted republican. And they watched as the republicans gave tax breaks to companies shipping their jobs overseas. They watched while other countries put enormous tarrifs on American cars brought into their countries while our country made imports of other countries cars into our country easy as pie. And since those countries provided national health care while our country refused to do so, the insurance cost added to the cost of the cars and made them less competitive. They watched while the republicans gave all the tax breaks to the richest people in the world and pushed the tax burden over on the working people. And now they are facing Christmas without a job and no prospects of a family supporting job if things continue as they have. These same people who voted republican to keep others from getting food stamps are now signing up for food stamps themselves. This same story has been repeated all over America now. People who bought the republican rhetoric and voted against their best interest are waking up today to the old truism. "If you want to live like a republican you have to vote democratic."
I am so sorry to hear about this GM plant closing its doors.

Unfortunately, during the Bush administration, more businesses and jobs were outsourced than any other time in history. I remember most every country Bush was in, he yelled out, "FREE TRADE< FREE TRADE". I believe it was Brazil that Bush was in, he was in a crowd of people yelling out, "free trade, free trade" and he held up his arms and you saw a hand reach up to snatch his watch. Bush left with one less watch but a promise of free trade.

Unfortunately, the last Depression, it was a Democratic President that got them out of it, some of it due to the war but still Rosevelt created many jobs.

It has been said that our country is turning into third World Country and there will be the rich and the poor. It is starting to look that way everyday. The middle class are going to be non existent within the next five years at this rate.

 
Old 10-15-2008, 11:45 AM
 
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Obama supports Obama. He doesn't give a crap about anyone, except how they might serve his ambition.
Who did you hear that from? Hannity? Limbaugh? I could say the same thing about McCain.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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Who did you hear that from? Hannity? Limbaugh? I could say the same thing about McCain.
No, unlike you, I have my own opinions and don't mindlessly repeat what pundits say.

And, no, you couldn't say the same thing about McCain. Well, I suppose you would and could because you make all sorts of outlandish claims here, but reason wouldn't support it. See, McCain has had a full life and long career -- he could easily quit everything, travel and enjoy himself. He chooses to serve because he has the experience and wisdom to make a difference, NOT BECAUSE HE HAS SOMETHING TO PROVE.

Obama, on the other hand, just unpacked his briefcase in Washington and then decided he needed to be the president even though he clearly doesn't have the experience that the job demands. He doesn't care -- he is ambitious and everything else comes second to that ambition.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 07:49 PM
 
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Obama supports the middle class? Are you crazy or just deluded?
Deluded? No, Im just amazed by the way he really wants to help the middle class, unlike poser McCain.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 07:51 PM
 
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Clinton >>> NAFTA.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 08:00 PM
 
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No, unlike you, I have my own opinions and don't mindlessly repeat what pundits say.

And, no, you couldn't say the same thing about McCain. Well, I suppose you would and could because you make all sorts of outlandish claims here, but reason wouldn't support it. See, McCain has had a full life and long career -- he could easily quit everything, travel and enjoy himself. He chooses to serve because he has the experience and wisdom to make a difference, NOT BECAUSE HE HAS SOMETHING TO PROVE.

Obama, on the other hand, just unpacked his briefcase in Washington and then decided he needed to be the president even though he clearly doesn't have the experience that the job demands. He doesn't care -- he is ambitious and everything else comes second to that ambition.

Bam is quite the imposter, egged on to "greatness" by his loathsome wife and their extreme leftist "buddies" who front him with money and media. Really a very clever scam, one only a corrupt and well-oiled Chicago political machine could pull off.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 08:01 PM
 
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Uninformed....willfully ignorant.....stupid. Take your pick to describe Democrats who failed to learn about the failures of socialism in the last century.

They are incredibly venal, not plutocratic. It gives them a chance to use the government as a jackpot machine.
What do you call the bailout? Capitalism at its finest?
 
Old 10-15-2008, 08:03 PM
 
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Bam is quite the imposter, egged on to "greatness" by his loathsome wife and their extreme leftist "buddies" who front him with money and media. Really a very clever scam, one only a corrupt and well-oiled Chicago political machine could pull off.
Or a well-"oiled" Texan like Bush.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 08:09 PM
 
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Or a well-"oiled" Texan like Bush.

Get with the program. BushBoy is old, old news.
 
Old 10-15-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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Get with the program. BushBoy is old, old news.
Unfortunately Bushie is not old news, not for another 4 months
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