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Old 10-15-2008, 11:53 AM
 
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Wait! Has anybody posted the Gallup Poll from today?

RV - 7 down from 10
LV II 8 What was it yesterday? 10

LV I (the traditional model, btw) 3 from 6

SMD, I think you were right in the trend.
Gallup is presenting two likely voter estimates to see how preferences might vary under different turnout scenarios. The "expanded" model determines likely voters based only on their current voting intention. This estimate would take into account higher turnout among groups of voters traditionally less likely to vote, but who may be inspired to vote this year. That model has generally produced results that closely match the registered voter figures as is the case today, showing Obama up by eight points, 52% to 44%.

The "traditional" likely voter model, which Gallup has employed for past elections, factors in prior voting behavior as well as current voting intention. This has generally shown a closer contest, though with Obama still ahead. Today's results show Obama with a three-point advantage over McCain using this likely voter model, 49% to 46%. That is slightly closer than the average five-point advantage for Obama among traditional likely voters since Gallup began measuring them last week. -- Jeff Jones
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Originally Posted by sanrene View Post
Wait! Has anybody posted the Gallup Poll from today?

RV - 7 down from 10
LV II 8 What was it yesterday? 10

LV I (the traditional model, btw) 3 from 6

SMD, I think you were right in the trend.

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there is no obvious path nor any historical precedent for McCain to make up this much ground in so little time. First, a McCain comeback will necessarily require convincing registered Democrats or independents with a history of voting Democratic - and that is a far more difficult challenge than having to solidify your own base as Kerry, Gore and Bush were all concerned with doing this late in the 2000 and 2004 cycles.
Second, Obama now enjoys a base of 264 electoral votes; i.e. not just 264 EVs leaning his way, but 264 EVs he can count and build on.


Three weeks out: With Obama in command, battle waged on red turf « Campaign Diaries
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:00 PM
 
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Why should we be here? You said yesterday that Obama would lose the lead. He has not. If my stock broker told me "Tomorrow, your portfolio will be up 37 percent, I guarantee it" and the next day it went up 1 percent and he told me, "See? See? It went up," well guess what? He would be fired. So, SMD YOUR'E FIRED!

Read again.

I did NOT say he would lose the lead at all.

Read it again and then take a nap.

You are so wrong again.
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Read again.

I did NOT say he would lose the lead at all.

Read it again and then take a nap.

You are so wrong again.

Fact: Your thread title is deliberately misleading in implying Obama would lose the lead.
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:04 PM
 
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There is no candidate named Odingo. have some respect
Also SLC must be at work.. so he has a life..
hummmmmmmmmmmmmm
I'm on my lunch break.. back to work.
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm


No, he does not deserve any respect, respect is something he needs to earn and he has not.

His new name is Odingo, because of this.

Since he used my TAXPAYER money many times to visit Kenya and support this crap I was thinking maybe someone adopted him along the way named Odingo.

Barry Soeboro Dunham Odingo, pick your name it changes everyday like his plans do.

Watch the video!


http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Gallup is presenting two likely voter estimates to see how preferences might vary under different turnout scenarios. The "expanded" model determines likely voters based only on their current voting intention. This estimate would take into account higher turnout among groups of voters traditionally less likely to vote, but who may be inspired to vote this year. That model has generally produced results that closely match the registered voter figures as is the case today, showing Obama up by eight points, 52% to 44%.

The "traditional" likely voter model, which Gallup has employed for past elections, factors in prior voting behavior as well as current voting intention. This has generally shown a closer contest, though with Obama still ahead. Today's results show Obama with a three-point advantage over McCain using this likely voter model, 49% to 46%. That is slightly closer than the average five-point advantage for Obama among traditional likely voters since Gallup began measuring them last week. -- Jeff Jones
Yes. This new, expanded model of course benefits Obama, which was it's intention. This is pure speculation based on "intentions". Thankfully, Gallup separates the two, which tells me they are not confident in the unprecedented LV model II they hatched this year.

Take into consideration Gallup is probably using 8-10% more dems in his polls......
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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Remember my friend and learn from posting history. We are now once again in the MCCAIN ISN'T LOSING AS BAD AS HE WAS mode. Thus it should be expected as you have seen it many a time before.
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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Fact: Your thread title is deliberately misleading in implying Obama would lose the lead.
Fact: How would you know?

Last edited by gallowsCalibrator; 10-15-2008 at 01:10 PM..
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:13 PM
 
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Fact: How would you know?
Fact: The thread title was deliberately misleading...
Fact: Your candidiate is still behind in the polls...

Last edited by gallowsCalibrator; 10-15-2008 at 01:11 PM..
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:18 PM
 
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Fact: The thread title was deliberately misleading...
Fact: Your candidiate is still behind in the polls...

Your opinion doesn't count.

And the polls are skewed with ACORN type crap and being within the margin of error tells me you are in for a very rude awakening.

I firmly believe the polls are played with to get the psychic of people that Obama is way ahead hoping that people do not show up to vote.

Well, sorry, but record numbers of McCain supporters will be voting while a record number of Odingo supporters cannot even find the precincts to vote.

** You read the thread and fully understood what this was about didn't you! Now because I was so damn right you are changing the subject. **

Face it, SMD was right, you were wrong.
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