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The first three months is when the decision should be made if any is to be made. After the three months it's absolutely ridiculous unless the mother is to die from the birth.
What about severe fetal defects (like Tristomy) that cannot be detected until after that 3 month window?
Not all abortions are nonviable fetuses. In partial birth abortion, the baby COULD in fact live outside the wound - if it didn't have a pair of Metzenbaum scissors shoved into the base of its skull before the head is delivered.
Emotional health is important. But it's just a huge joke that all these abortions are performed for the mental health of the mother. That is just the lie that is written on the chart so it's "acceptable."
First off, "partial-birth abortion" is not a medical term. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the American Medical Association do not recognize "partial-birth abortion" as a medical term or procedure.
Second, there are several instances where a woman could have a late term abortion for health reasons not related to mental health issues. These can also include severe defects with the fetus.
The fact of the matter is that McCain showed his true colors when talking about women's rights by using the air-quotes.
What's even more interesting is that 8 years ago, McCain said that he would not want Roe v. Wade to be overturned and even acknowledged that bans on abortions would only cause women to revert to dangerous, illegal abortions. Too bad, the McCain of 8 years ago is not running today.
The first three months is when the decision should be made if any is to be made. After the three months it's absolutely ridiculous unless the mother is to die from the birth.
Ridiculous isn't the word that I would use because again, as in Kev's sisters case where both mother and child were at risk, we don't know the full story.
However, for the most part, I agree with the first trimester.
You'll notice I have not been banned or given an infraction - and I will be contacting a mod regarding this accusation. I have never once sent you a PM, DM, rep, whatever.
If one is terminating a pregnancy with hydrocephaly rather than delivering it - the safer procedure is an abortion over a cesarean section.
We are talking about an 8 month fetus with hydrocephaly. If the head won't fit through the birth canal, how is an abortion better than a cesarean section? Cesarean sections are indeed performed for nonviable pregnancies in situations like that.
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What exactly is your point?
And what does your post have to do with the fact that McCain only chooses partners (whether spousal partnership, or campaign partnership) who are pretty (his opinion), ex-pageant contestants? He obviously wishes to only surround himself (at home and at work) with pretty, well-dressed women, and evidently (at least in Cindy's and Palin's cases) holds these shallow, superficial traits in higher regard than intelligence.
I think we all too often know what is going on in the head and heart of the mother. But I agree, not always. And I certainly sympathize with JerZ and others like her. But for the other 1.2 million a year ?????????????
I agree, that's a lot.
But now here's one thing.
Guns kill people. Guns wound people...guns are the cause of emergency room visits every single day.
Many, many people use guns responsibly.
Many also use them literally to pop a cap in a person whose shoes are the "wrong" color.
So would you agree that since the potential is there to end lives frivolously by guns, guns should be outlawed?
Or do you feel that being a criminal is one thing, being responsible is another...and it's not as black and white as "if we outlaw guns, nobody else will die by guns"?
And what does your post have to do with the fact that McCain only chooses partners (whether spousal partnership, or campaign partnership) that are pretty (his opinion), ex-pageant contestants? He obviously wishes to only surround himself (at home and at work) with pretty, well-dressed women, and evidently (at least in Cindy's and Palin's cases) holds these shallow, superficial traits in higher regard than intelligence.
I was trying to get you to answer the "Obama pays his female employees less" side of it. I was discrediting you as you spun more and more. McCain now "chooses" these women. God forbid they could think or act for themselves. The real sexism is making itself abundantly clear.
Guns kill people. Guns wound people...guns are the cause of emergency room visits every single day.
Many, many people use guns responsibly.
Many also use them literally to pop a cap in a person whose shoes are the "wrong" color.
So would you agree that since the potential is there to end lives frivolously by guns, guns should be outlawed?
Or do you feel that being a criminal is one thing, being responsible is another...and it's not as black and white as "if we outlaw guns, nobody else will die by guns"?
How is the abortion issue any different?
By this reasoning, you would be outlawing scalpels.
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