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Old 10-18-2008, 04:08 PM
 
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When federal judges in San Francisco ruled in 2002 that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools was unconstitutional because it included the phrase "under God," Sarah Palin was not amused. Palin, who at the time was Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, quickly drafted a terse letter to the editor of a San Francisco newspaper.

“Dear Editor,” Palin wrote in 2002. “San Francisco judges forbidding our Pledge of Allegiance? They will take the phrase ‘under God’ away from me when my cold, dead lips can no longer utter those words,” Palin wrote.


“God Bless America,” she concluded.


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Old 10-18-2008, 05:48 PM
 
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“Dear Editor,” Palin wrote in 2002. “San Francisco judges forbidding our Pledge of Allegiance? They will take the phrase ‘under God’ away from me when my cold, dead lips can no longer utter those words,” Palin wrote.
Yes, that's just it. The governor clearly thought that it was all about her, and failed to understand that public schools aren't exactly there for the promotion of her religion.
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Old 10-18-2008, 06:30 PM
 
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And I have never been in a school that prohibited children from saying Under God, they just don't force them too.
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Old 10-18-2008, 06:55 PM
 
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Yes, that's just it. The governor clearly thought that it was all about her, and failed to understand that public schools aren't exactly there for the promotion of her religion.
That's too bad. No wonder we are failing. It's like a free fall.
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:02 PM
 
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That's too bad. No wonder we are failing. It's like a free fall.
I dont see the connection between a challenging curriculum and committed teachers, and the wording of the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:19 PM
 
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I dont see the connection between a challenging curriculum and committed teachers, and the wording of the Pledge of Allegiance.
You'd have to do a study on the history of our educational system in this country.
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:21 PM
 
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You'd have to do a study on the history of our educational system in this country.
So the Japanese say the American Pledge of Allegiance and be sure to add "under God," and that is why they do so well academically?
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:22 PM
 
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Yes, that's just it. The governor clearly thought that it was all about her, and failed to understand that public schools aren't exactly there for the promotion of her religion.
Good post...I think that covers SaraTodd Palin pretty well on all isues.
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:28 PM
 
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So the Japanese say the American Pledge of Allegiance and be sure to add "under God," and that is why they do so well academically?
I believe that is a good example of where the disconnect comes in.

You are an "immigrant" when you desire to come to a country to live, work and embrace the values and core beliefs of that country as your own.

You are an "alien" when you desire to come to a country to live and work, all the while, disregarding the values and core beliefs of that said country as your own.
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:33 PM
 
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I believe that is a good example of where the disconnect comes in.

You are an "immigrant" when you desire to come to a country to live, work and embrace the values and core beliefs of that country as your own.
At least, the economic core beliefs. Not necessarily the religious or the nationalistic.

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You are an "alien" when you desire to come to a country to live and work, all the while, disregarding the values and core beliefs of that said country as your own.
Off-topic and creepy to boot. Is that the way the Dept of Immigration Services differentiates?
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