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Old 10-20-2008, 10:13 AM
 
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Discussing the 2005 energy bill, which passed the Senate overwhelmingly, McCain said "I think Senator Obama might be a little bit confused. Yesterday, he accused me of having President Bush's policies on energy. That's odd because he voted for the President's energy bill and I voted against it. I voted against it as had $2.8 billion in corporate welfare to Big Oil companies, and they're already making record profits, as you know. Senator Obama voted for that bill and its Big Oil giveaways.

I know he hasn't been in the Senate that long, but even in the real world, voting for something means you support it and voting against something means you oppose it."
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:15 AM
 
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Discussing the 2005 energy bill, which passed the Senate overwhelmingly, McCain said "I think Senator Obama might be a little bit confused. Yesterday, he accused me of having President Bush's policies on energy. That's odd because he voted for the President's energy bill and I voted against it. I voted against it as had $2.8 billion in corporate welfare to Big Oil companies, and they're already making record profits, as you know. Senator Obama voted for that bill and its Big Oil giveaways.

I know he hasn't been in the Senate that long, but even in the real world, voting for something means you support it and voting against something means you oppose it."
Uhh....no....in McCain's case, voting against a bill usually means that he's against the pork that was loaded into it- not that he's against the fundamental issue at stake in the bill.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:16 AM
 
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McCain's stance on energy is not nearly as bad as Palin's, so that is atleast a good thing.

However, Obama has a great stance on energy policy, and to create green jobs by producing better and cleaner energy.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:18 AM
 
Location: WA
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What did Nader vote for? Oh right. He hasn't been elected to public office yet.
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:18 AM
 
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McCain's that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If McCain is so against pork, then why did he vote for the bill that had $150 Billion in pork attached to it just last month?
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:19 AM
 
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McCain's stance on energy is not nearly as bad as Palin's, so that is atleast a good thing.

However, Obama has a great stance on energy policy, and to create green jobs by producing better and cleaner energy.
why do you think obama's energy plan is better than mccain's personally?
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Old 10-20-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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McCain's that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If McCain is so against pork, then why did he vote for the bill that had $150 Billion in pork attached to it just last month?
once again, disinformation! look at the pork in the senate, available for anyone to look up online at senate.gov (our own government website):

mccain 0 dollars for pork
obama requested 100 earmarks for the fiscal year 2008, totalling $300 million. Obama has requests for $3 million for planetarium equipment, $200,000 for a new theater for plays, $8,500,000 for an asian carp barrier, $500,000 for marina improvements, $1,000,000 for a children's museum, $3,000,000 for a park, $4,000,000 for a reading program, $1,000,000 for expansion of an indigenous people's exhibit, and on and on. Here's the complete list. Obama has also requested earmarks for the hospital where Obama's wife works. An administrator at that hospital said Michelle Obama was "worth her weight in gold". No doubt. Mrs. Obama was promoted and her hospital salary tripled about the same time Barack entered the U.S. Senate.
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Old 10-20-2008, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Uhh....no....in McCain's case, voting against a bill usually means that he's against the pork that was loaded into it- not that he's against the fundamental issue at stake in the bill.
Really there was pork in the bailout bill and he voted for it......if he believes in it he will vote for it. If he doesn't he will vote agianst it and if there is too much pork he will not vote.

Nice try.....McCain is right and obama is a moron.

Obama has no energy plan....from no on drilling to I'll take a look to get votes...from no nuclear to maybe to get votes=no energy and no plan! Taxing big oil will only raise the prices more!

McCain will drill, nuclear, wind, clean coal, natrual gas, solar, and alternatives.....FYI Boone Pickens is voting for McCain because he has an energy plan that will get us out of this mess!
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Niles, Michigan
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McCain can't explain anything to Obama . He is too busy trying to explain anything to his running mate. Isn't their tag team interview coming up.
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:15 PM
 
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know he hasn't been in the Senate that long, but even in the real world, voting for something means you support it and voting against something means you oppose it."BobKovacs
In the real world one makes compromises, when it comes to legislation one has to weight what is most important... which brings me to:


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Uhh....no....in McCain's case, voting against a bill usually means that he's against the pork that was loaded into it- not that he's against the fundamental issue at stake in the bill.
Which is an interesting point, McCain all too often loosed sight of the bigger picture, especially when it comes to his one man war on earmarks. Which raises an interesting question, Congressmen depend on "bringing home the bacon" that is what constituent services is all about, so I can't wait to see - strike that - I can't imagine how McCain would get anything passed through Congress be it Democratic or Republican if he is a serious as he claims to be regarding earmarks.
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