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Old 10-23-2008, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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A lot of people don't believe youtube videos but here's one for you anyways...


YouTube - Obama & Live Birth Abortion / Induced Labor Abortions / Infanticide Pro-Life Anti-Abortion Video
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Bethesda, MD
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A lot of people don't believe youtube videos but here's one for you anyways...


YouTube - Obama & Live Birth Abortion / Induced Labor Abortions / Infanticide Pro-Life Anti-Abortion Video
Neither the American Medical Association nor the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists recognize, "Partial Birth Abortion" as a medical procedure. So please, stop posting it as if it is.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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OMG! Read the FACTS... You can't argue facts. How are you going to argue that? I don't understand. You people are truly BLINDED.

OBAMA ON ABORTION

  • No litmus test; nominate to Court based on their fairness. (Oct 2008)
  • 1990: Wrote law article that that fetus cannot sue mother. (Aug 2008)
  • FactCheck: Abortions HAVE gone down under Pres. Bush. (Aug 2008)
  • Ok for state to restrict late-term partial birth abortion. (Apr 2008)
  • We can find common ground between pro-choice and pro-life. (Apr 2008)
  • Undecided on whether life begins at conception. (Apr 2008)
  • Teach teens about abstinence and also about contraception. (Apr 2008)
  • GovWatch: Obama's "present" votes were a requested strategy. (Feb 2008)
  • Expand access to contraception; reduce unintended pregnancy. (Feb 2008)
  • Rated 100% by NARAL on pro-choice votes in 2005, 2006 & 2007. (Jan 2008)
  • Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)
  • Stem cells hold promise to cure 70 major diseases. (Aug 2007)
  • Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)
  • Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters. (Oct 2006)
  • Constitution is a living document; no strict constructionism. (Oct 2006)
  • Moral accusations from pro-lifers are counterproductive. (Oct 2004)
  • Pass the Stem Cell Research Bill. (Jun 2004)
  • Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004) Voting Record

  • Opposed born-alive treatment law because it was already law. (Oct 2008)
  • Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)
  • Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)
  • Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
  • Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
  • Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
  • Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)
  • Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
  • Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
Barack Obama on the Issues

How can you argue that?
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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I am sorry I meant "live birth abortion" WHICH IS WORSE!

Obama and Live Birth Abortion « Dry Fly Politics
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:30 PM
 
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I am sorry I meant "live birth abortion" WHICH IS WORSE!

Obama and Live Birth Abortion « Dry Fly Politics
You need to learn to do something called "balanced research." There are ALL KINDS of insane webites and articles, filled with twisted information and outright lies, about Obama's position on abortion. It's all pure-D bullsh*t. But, hey, if you want to believe it, go right ahead. The only people who will be persuade by you--and your nutty extreme right-wing links--are the uneducated or the seriously intellectually compromised right-wing base.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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You need to learn to do something called "balanced research." There are ALL KINDS of insane webites and articles, filled with twisted information and outright lies, about Obama's position on abortion. It's all pure-D bullsh*t. But, hey, if you want to believe it, go right ahead. The only people who will be persuade by you--and your nutty extreme right-wing links--are the uneducated or the seriously intellectually compromised right-wing base.
How is recorder voting history BULL****?? Please explain that to me?

You truly are blind... It's saddening.

heres some more for ya.

Born Alive Bill Controversy: The 700 Club Story - The Brody File: David Brody Blog - CBN News
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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some more for ya...

Jill Stanek has done yeoman's work on uncovering the fact that Barack Obama and his surrogates have been outright lying about Obama's constant votes against the Live-Birth abortion bills when he was in office in the State legislature. His claims have been a staple of Old Media reports from the beginning, but now that Stanek has revealed the truth we will have to see if the Old Media corrects the record or if they suddenly just go mum on the subject like they have so far. The Born-Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA) both in the Illinois and Federal legislatures was meant to make illegal death by neglect of born but unwanted infants. These bills were opposed by the bulk of the Democrat Party because of the fact that the original bills could have been construed to say that a pre-birth fetus was a "person" that was protected by law. So, the bill in Congress was altered to address that concern by adding a "neutrality clause" that made it clear that the bill would not protect a fetus in utero.
As Obama continues to tell the tale, as a State Senator he said he voted against the Illinois bill because the Federal "neutrality clause" was not included and that therefore he could not support the Illinois bill. Turns out he is not telling the truth about this fact. Even worse, he knows better because he was part of the legislative committee that added that very "neutrality clause" to the very bill he voted against in 2003.
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As Stanek found, Obama not only was part of that committee adding the Federal "neutrality clause" to the Illinois bill, he was the chairman of that committee.
The documents prove that in March 2003, state Senator Obama, then the chairman of the IL state Senate Health and Human Services Committee, presided over a committee meeting in which the "neutrality clause" (copied verbatim from the federal bill) was added to the state BAIPA, with Obama voting in support of adding the revision. Yet, immediately afterwards, Obama led the committee Democrats in voting against the amended bill, and it was killed, 6-4.
It strains credulity to believe that Obama was unaware that the "neutrality clause" was added to the bill if he was the chairman of the committee that put it in there, doesn't it? So we are forced to realize that Obama knows the truth but is trying to rewrite history and with the willing accomplices in the Old Media he has succeeded in doing so thus far.
Stanek points out that only two years after his "no" vote, Obama had developed his "change" version of history.
Less than two years after this meeting, Obama began to publicly claim that he opposed the state BAIPA because it lacked the "neutrality" clause, and that he would have supported the federal version (had he been a member of Congress) because it contained the "neutrality" clause.
Stanek has the whole sordid history on this affair, with links to the actual bills and umpteen news stories and legislative resources to prove her case. Go on over and take a look at her extensive research.
Now, this story is no matter of mere opinion. There is no possibility that Obama just has a different opinion on a controversial national issue than we do. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan once famously said, one is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. What we have here is Obama simply telling a lie and knowingly doing so. Will the Old Media continue to cover up for him like they have done for the last four years?

Obama Lied About Vote Against Live-Birth Abortion Ban, Media Mum | NewsBusters.org
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Jaysus, not this "email" again. The Obamaphiles must be running out of material.
If there ever was a writer's strike, it was on the right side of the aisle. Muslim? Socialist? Terrorist? That's all you've ever had. Pathetic.
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:44 PM
 
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Oh good grief! What does the OP have to do w/ abortion??
FOCUS,people!!

Thanks for posting this GoodPasture,I know EXACTLY what you are talking about,100%.
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:48 PM
 
Location: here
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Jaysus, not this "email" again. The Obamaphiles must be running out of material.
well it sure beats the "Obama is a Muslim terrorist" e-mails. And I've never seen this one before, either.
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