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Old 10-25-2008, 01:11 PM
 
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Since Obama's State and US Senatorial record is irrelevant so is McCain's.

Since McCain's adultery is ancient history, and his military accomplishments predate his adultery, that doesn't count either.


You have a few choices here-

1- Acknowledge that holding elected office DOES serve as leadership experience for all candidates.

2- Accept that if McCain's military experience should count, so should everything he has done since then, including committing adultery and being involved in the Keating 5 scandal.

3- Admit that he has no leadership experience.



So please choose, #1, #2, or #3
He has no leadership experience just like Obama.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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McCain and Palin displayed more leadership in reform than the Obama/Biden Ticket.

In fact, they will continue to address reforms while in office.

ETHICS Reform
JohnMcCain.com - McCain-Palin 2008 (http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/cb15a056-ac87-485d-a64d-82989bdc948c.htm - broken link)

GOVERNMENT Reform
JohnMcCain.com - McCain-Palin 2008 (http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/JobsforAmerica/reform.htm - broken link)


Again, McCain's reforms were as a senator. That experience is irrelevant to Obama so it's irrelevant to McCain.



And they will continue their reforms as Governor of Alaska and US Senator from Arizona.

At least until the next election.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:17 PM
 
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Again, McCain's reforms were as a senator. That experience is irrelevant to Obama so it's irrelevant to McCain.



And they will continue their reforms as Governor of Alaska and US Senator from Arizona.

At least until the next election.
Obama hails himself as an agent of change! The McCain/Palin ticket has proven track record on displaying their leadership in effecting change and reform than the Obama/Biden Ticket.



Bottom line up front: John McCain and Sarah Palin have a record of reform that they plan on continuing within their administration. They don't just promise "change" when "change" is popular. The McCain-Palin ticket will have the courage to promote progress, even when it's unpopular.
http://www.thenextright.com/matt-moon/mccain-palin-the-courage-to-reform (broken link)
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:23 PM
 
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Obama hails himself as an agent of change! The McCain/Palin ticket has proven track record on displaying their leadership in effecting change and reform than the Obama/Biden Ticket.
Suck it up and support President Obama, your efforts to sink this ship is a total waste of time, unlike the Titanic this ship IS unsinkable!
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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Obama hails himself as an agent of change! The McCain/Palin ticket has proven track record on displaying their leadership in effecting change and reform than the Obama/Biden Ticket.



Bottom line up front: John McCain and Sarah Palin have a record of reform that they plan on continuing within their administration. They don't just promise "change" when "change" is popular. The McCain-Palin ticket will have the courage to promote progress, even when it's unpopular.
McCain-Palin: The Courage to Reform | The Next Right (http://www.thenextright.com/matt-moon/mccain-palin-the-courage-to-reform - broken link)

Does that mean you are willing to admit that Obama's time in the State and US Senate qualify as leadership experience?

Or will you once again discount that as irrelevant for the Democrat Candidate but deem it relevant to the Republican candidate?
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:37 PM
 
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Does that mean you are willing to admit that Obama's time in the State and US Senate qualify as leadership experience?

Or will you once again discount that as irrelevant for the Democrat Candidate but deem it relevant to the Republican candidate?
There is a difference between leadership and executive experience.

Obama does NOT have executive experience.
Palin has MORE Executive experience than Obama, Biden and McCAIN!!

Obama/Biden loses in executive experience compared to the McCAIN/Palin ticket.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:38 PM
 
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There is a difference between leadership and executive experience.

Obama does NOT have executive experience.
Palin has MORE Executive experience than Obama, Biden and McCAIN!!

The title of this thread concerns McCain. Not Palin.


So once again, I ask you to read my original post and answer it. Details, links, etc please.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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The title of this thread concerns McCain. Not Palin.


So once again, I ask you to read my original post and answer it. Details, links, etc please.
I gave you links. You just need to start reading.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:49 PM
 
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PolitiFact | McCain ran a Navy unit of 1,000 people


An executive job
Clark’s larger point is correct: McCain has accomplished a lot in his storied military and political career, but he has relatively little executive experience.
But still, Clark, who ran for president in 2004, was incorrect to say that McCain “hasn’t held executive responsibility.” His tenure at the RAG shows that McCain not only held an executive post in which he managed a staff of 1,000 and oversaw a fleet of 75 planes, but he earned positive reviews for his performance. When McCain departed, the unit was given its first-ever Meritorious Unit Citation. So we find Clark’s claim to be False.



http://tampabay.com/news/politics/article656555.ece

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Old 10-25-2008, 01:56 PM
 
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After McCain led a Navy Unit he was taken as a POW- great leader. If he did that to his sailors, what the hell will he do to America?

When he returned from his time as a POW, rather than focusing on healing as a family, McCain instead chased a billionairess- the daughter of a mobster. Despite the fact that his wife was crippled in a car accident. He abandoned his wife and children to marry this heiress and even obtained a marriage license to said heiress before his divorce was finalized.

After his election to the senate and marriage to the heiress, although she was a billionaire, he accepted gifts and travel worth hundreds of thousands of dollars from a banker named Charles Keating. His second wife and father in law even invested money with Mr. Keating.

When it was found that this banker, Mr. Keating operated his business below legal and moral standards, McCain, along with four other US Senators tried to hide their dealings with him and also tried to prevent the investigation into the practices of Mr. Keating's bank.

And sometime after that he publicly called his second wife a c**t in public. I don't know if that was before or after she became addicted to prescription drugs and used her charity as a vehicle to procure those drugs.




Is that really the kind of leader you want?

An adulterer who tried to impede a federal investigation into a crooked banker?

A man who's family profited from this crooked banker?

A man who's wife uses a charity as a means to obtain drugs to feed her addiction illegally?


Nobody in their right mind would want such a leader.

But I may be generous in assuming you might be in your right mind.
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