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have you people looked at all the other US citizen threads?
there were links to factcheck where they confirmed having seen the birth certificate and they said it was authentic.
He is either a natural born US citizen or an illegal alien. If he were anything else (naturalized citizen, legal alien, etc.) there would be public documents to that effect. He has not submitted his birth certificate because there is no designated agency to submit it to. No court has requested it, no private organization has the right to request it.
The copy floating around is as good as it gets, but people will insist it's a forgery. If he submits another one to another news outlet, there's reason to expect people to insist that one is a forgery as well. That's why no new certificate has been provided.
I couldn't even get my son's driver license, without the raised seal Birth Certificate and this guy can run for President without it!!!
Nice, that this is a FAR AWAY look, at his Birth Certificate. These people will FALL for ANYTHING!!!! If McCain's Birth Certificate was this far away you know they would be stomping mad!!
It has the seal... and I wouldn't consider this gigantic, close up picture, a "far away" llok.
Where's his NAME, I would say this is FAR AWAY!!!! This could be anyones, certificate. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this one. I don't see anything, that says Barack Obama, do you????
Were are the American People, blinded by a man who claims all and proves nothing!!!
To all of you who doubt that Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be president: If he showed up on your doorstep and gave you a certified, notarized, raised seal copy of his birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii, you would immediately start saying it was a forgery and/or otherwise not authentic.
There's really no point in discussing this any further. Despite the mountain of evidence disputing what you purport to believe, you won't be swayed. To each his or her own. If you choose to spend the next 4 or 8 years babbling on about Obama's birth certificate, so be it. But I'm not going to waste any more time on this issue.
Where's his NAME, I would say this is FAR AWAY!!!! This could be anyones, certificate. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this one. I don't see anything, that says Barack Obama, do you????
Were are the American People, blinded by a man who claims all and proves nothing!!!
Yes, I do see it, here is the gigantic pic - click on it and it will show even bigger. Can you see it now? If you had bothered to click on the link, you'd see it.
To all of you who doubt that Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be president: If he showed up on your doorstep and gave you a certified, notarized, raised seal copy of his birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii, you would immediately start saying it was a forgery and/or otherwise not authentic.
There's really no point in discussing this any further. Despite the mountain of evidence disputing what you purport to believe, you won't be swayed. To each his or her own. If you choose to spend the next 4 or 8 years babbling on about Obama's birth certificate, so be it. But I'm not going to waste any more time on this issue.
Good point! And they will be voting for John regardless...
Last edited by minibrings; 10-27-2008 at 08:59 AM..
Yes, I do see it, here is the gigantic pic - click on it and it will show even bigger. Can you see it now? If you had bothered to click on the link, you'd see it.
This certificate is a Certificate of LIVE BIRTH. It is not the original Birth Certificate. Look at the bottom left-hand side for the form's Revision Date, and also where it says "LASER". Laser printing was done in 1961, and the revision date of this form is after 1961. This certificate from the state of Hawaii is NOT Obama's "Bith Certificate"!
This certificate is a Certificate of LIVE BIRTH. It is not the original Birth Certificate. Look at the bottom left-hand side for the form's Revision Date, and also where it says "LASER". Laser printing was done in 1961, and the revision date of this form is after 1961. This certificate from the state of Hawaii is NOT Obama's "Bith Certificate"!
For the BILLIONTH TIME.
That is a CERTIFIED STATE OF HAWAII copy.
I do not have my original certificate - I had to go get a Certified copy from NY, as Obama did with HI.
It is LEGALLY the SAME THING.
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