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Old 10-28-2008, 07:50 AM
 
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McCain handed over his paper work without protest, Obama as I understand has not. According to some of Obama's own family members, he was born in Africa, not Hawaii. Also, it is my understanding that they have been unable to locate any hosiptal records of his birth in Hawaii.
Agreed!

There is not ONE SINGLE piece of evidence showing he was born at all.

Other then a fake BC that was photo shopped from his sisters BC.

Why not just show it?

There are records in Kenya showing he was born in Kenya and guess what, Obama and his thugs shut them down in Kenya also when Corsi was there looking around. What did the Obots thugs do, they forced Corsi to leave so he would not find anything.

This is beginning to look more like communism every day.

The Obots have stopped any and all access to any and all records of Obots past. This is control, this is not freedom and this is not right.

Obama has defrauded America and even the Obots know it. They are part of the problem.

 
Old 10-28-2008, 08:05 AM
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Why?

It got sealed so no one can see it and copy it and you know it.

Fake or real, it got sealed and Obama lied to us why he went to Hawaii.

Why is it hard for you to see that?

BK, keep trying, you know something is very fishy about this or you would not keep trying to get the thread closed.

How about being honest with yourself and admitting something is very wrong with this picture.
Sounds like Obama and HIS SUPPORTERS are willing to give of FREEDOM of SPEECH and shutting down anything or anyone who doesn't see it their way!!!

Don't ask Obama or Biden a REAL question or you will be kicked out.....How do you support someone who's obvious agenda is to stop Freedom of Speech or if it isn't his view point it's "RACIST", Obama is not for Americans, he is going to change Americans, we will be looking like Europe in 4 years!!!!
Florida Anchorwoman Knows a Marxist When She Sees One...........The Obama campaign pulled the plug on a Florida news station’s access to Obama, after WFTV-Channel 9 anchorwoman’s interview with VP candidate.
 
Old 10-28-2008, 08:05 AM
 
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McCain handed over his paper work without protest, Obama as I understand has not. According to some of Obama's own family members, he was born in Africa, not Hawaii. Also, it is my understanding that they have been unable to locate any hosiptal records of his birth in Hawaii.
Obama has also handed over his paper work without protest, you conspiracy theorists just insist that it's not authentic. If you believe it's not authentic, you must prove it. Obama has nothing more to prove.
 
Old 10-28-2008, 08:17 AM
 
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McCain handed over his paper work without protest, Obama as I understand has not. According to some of Obama's own family members, he was born in Africa, not Hawaii. Also, it is my understanding that they have been unable to locate any hosiptal records of his birth in Hawaii.

This is utterly bogus.

Nothing posted on here is going to change the minds of miborn, or smd, or sanrene. They WANT to believe in conspiracy. They WANT to believe that Obama is a terrorist-socialist-communist-Kenyan-Indonesian-liar-and so on. No matter how many facts are tossed their way, no matter how many times the inconsistencies in their arguments are pointed out, they are going to go back to those same litany of their own Church of McCain. They accuse all the people who support Obama of being brainwashed, or believing that Obama is some sort of Messiah. But the true believers here are the ones that stubbornly persist in the face of all reason, all facts, to believe in their own version of reality. They are the ones who twisting and bending the truth, over and over again, to fit their beliefs, rather than taking a long hard look at the facts.

Here are some of those facts:

Obama, regardless of where he was born, would have been an American citizen because his mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth. At the time of his birth, neither his mother, father, or grandparents could have possibly envisioned that this child would one day run for President of the United States, so embarking on a conspiracy to assure him natural-born status would have been pointless, since he would enjoy every other privilege of citizenship because of his mother's status. His citizenship belongs to him. No other country's rules, laws, or actions to renounce American citizenship are recognized by the American government. Until he reached adulthood the American government would not have recognized any acts of renunciation. As an adult, he's lived in the United States, attended college here, worked here, all as an American citizen.

When he was enrolled in school in Indonesia, his birthplace is clearly designated as Honolulu. Either the conspiracy started before this time, or he was born in Honolulu. The discrepancies in family history in statements by a half-sister or step-grandmother are typical of any family's history. People hear things and are told things that are simply untrue. Like my aunt's story that we are descended from Louis XVI. Yep, we are royalty, tis true. Only NOT.

He has traveled outside the country on an American passport. The US State Department had to have seen his birth certificate to verify his citizenship in order to grant him a passport. If he was not a natural-born citizen, they would know that. The US State Department is part of our federal government. The federal government then is either part of the conspiracy, or it believes Obama to be a natural-born citizen.

All states, including Hawaii, have rules protecting a citizen's privacy. You can't just walk into any state's vital statistics bureau and demand a copy of anyone's birth certificate except your own. The State of Hawaii is not doing something extraordinary by stating that the birth certificate of Barack Obama is not available to the public. They are simply emphasizing that Senator Obama's right to privacy is as protected as anyone else's.

The Berg lawsuit dismissal was explained by the judge in a 36-page evaluation of the lawsuit. While specifically, one point was used as the reason for dismissal, in fact, there were multiple problems with this lawsuit, and the judge outlined those problems in the 36-page statement. Plaintiff's standing was always a huge obstacle in this proceeding, and it's doubtful any appeal will be able to overcome that obstacle.
 
Old 10-28-2008, 08:28 AM
 
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He can repeat a zillion times, but until I see the original typed/handwritten copy it doesn't matter.
Well John McCain was born on Panamanian soil, not the Canal Zone so until I see an original legal government document saying he is eligible to run for POTUS.. he isn't! How's that? Crazy post huh?
 
Old 10-28-2008, 10:32 AM
 
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Lets go over this so you can even understand it.

Obama went to Hawaii to get it sealed. The Gov sealed it to keep the peace.
What cant you understand about it, gosh, this is easy even for you.
Well, if you really want to get this over with so even you can understand it:

1) The Governor did not seal it. There was no change in procedure between the week before Obama went to Hawaii and today. None.

2) All the Governor's office did was confirm the law - same as the Dept. of Health had.

3) There is no evidence that Obama and the Governor met while Obama was in Hawaii. Gee, what a shock. Ever think that might be because he didn't meet with her - or with any of her staff?

and

4) It doesn't matter what Obama does - you folks will still deny it's real. He finally figured that out and has stopped dancing to your tune. Deal.

"All he has to do is..." Such crap. It's been said at each stage, and then ended up not being true.
 
Old 10-28-2008, 10:51 AM
 
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Why was Obama given a [yet another] pass, this time by a Federal Court Judge when Obama or the DNC failed to respond to a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate, which expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers?
 
Old 10-28-2008, 10:53 AM
 
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Why was Obama given a [yet another] pass, this time by a Federal Court Judge when Obama failed to respond to a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate, which expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers?
You need to study federal civil procedure. I'm tired of looking things up for you.
 
Old 10-28-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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I see that a Washington State Judge threw out [another] lawsuit against Obama.

Judge tosses Wash. lawsuit on Obama citizenship (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_obama_citizenship.html - broken link)
 
Old 10-28-2008, 11:02 AM
 
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You need to study federal civil procedure. I'm tired of looking things up for you.
You don't have to do that! Per Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (failure to respond within 30 days) Obama and the DNC technically admitted to all allegations made against them.
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