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Obviously, you miss a key point. Obama has locked up tight ALL his records - how could one prove what is on them if Obama has made sure they do not get out to the public - BC, School transcripts, Passports, Bar application, school applications - all of these records have been kept from the public, and the media has never demanded, with one voice, for Obama to release them.
Can you explain such behavior from a presidential candidate?
There is only one reason why he would go to such lengths to deny access to the public - something is on these records that he does not want the public to see.
You bet he's hiding something he does not want the public to see!!! And no, these far left wing fruitballs can't explain why he won't release them. They have no explanation...and they don't care! The hell with the Constitution. They don't care. I do!
Obviously, you miss a key point. Obama has locked up tight ALL his records - how could one prove what is on them if Obama has made sure they do not get out to the public - BC, School transcripts, Passports, Bar application, school applications - all of these records have been kept from the public, and the media has never demanded, with one voice, for Obama to release them.
Can you explain such behavior from a presidential candidate?
There is only one reason why he would go to such lengths to deny access to the public - something is on these records that he does not want the public to see.
Actually, no.
Few if any colleges keep applications from their students past the mandated period, partially as a result of the Buckley Amendment, a number of years ago and partially just because of space.
He doesn't have to do anything to keep passports from getting out. That happens automatically.
Have you ever seen George W. Bush's passport? Bill Clinton's? George H.W. Bush's?
How about either Bush's college transcripts or Bill Clinton's college or law school transcripts?
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Sanrene, all of these things you are insisting are mysterious are business as usual. We didn't get Kennedy's grades until he was dead. He had a D in history, once.
It's not weird. Weird is that you and others think it's weird.
Go ahead, and search for the college applications for those other presidents or their grades or their passports.
It's the same thing all over again as the claims that the Hawaiian governor "sealed" the birth records - no sealing was required.
It is a violation of the law to give out school records, health records, and passport records without permission. In the case of the passport records, even he can't release more than his own passport. The government doesn't release those with or without permission.
And college applications and financial aid applications get destroyed, because they would otherwise take up far too much room.
False. And certainly none that said that they were born in Hawaii.
They could get a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth - which meant that they could lay claim to being of Hawaii, but not born there themselves.
The short form only copies what is on the long form, in terms of where the person was born and when they were born.
If Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya as his Grandmother has declared, his mother could still obtain a COLB from the State of Hawaii of his birth...and yes, even showing that Barack was born in Hawaii when he was actually born in Mombasa, Kenya! Happened all the time during that time period.
So a COLB clears up nothing. He must be made to show the vault birth certificate with witnesses, doctors name, etc., etc., etc., seeing how he is stonewalling it.
He did have another COLB displayed on his website that was found to be an absolute fake, but now he refuses to even show that one to anyone. Ever wonder why he put up a fake COLB? Whats up with that?
Obviously, it doesn't copy all the information. If Obama was born in Kenya, he mother could apply to register his birth in Hawaii - as we all know, there are about 4 different "types" of certificates available from Hawaii. Below appears to be an original COLB - it has much more information than what obama has provided with his "copy".
Yes - it is a short form. It has city, county, and state of birth. This is why we call it a short form? It has less data, you know?
But Sanrene, I don't get your point.
Registering a birth in Hawaii is not the same as a Certificate that states one was BORN in Hawaii.
Had what you proposed might have happened happened, the Hawaiian certificate would state that he was born in Kenya. And so would copies of it.
If Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya as his Grandmother has declared, his mother could still obtain a COLB from the State of Hawaii of his birth...and yes, even showing that Barack was born in Hawaii when he was actually born in Mombasa, Kenya! Happened all the time during that time period.
No.
This is a falsehood. You have no evidence or examples to support this claim.
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Originally Posted by Kooter
He did have another COLB displayed on his website that was found to be an absolute fake, but now he refuses to even show that one to anyone. Ever wonder why he put up a fake COLB? Whats up with that?
I asked for evidence that "Obama admitted" that the one on his site was a fake.
You repeat that it was a fake, ignore the part where you claim he admitted it - and you still provide no evidence. Repetition does not equal evidence.
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Originally Posted by Kooter If Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya as his Grandmother has declared, his mother could still obtain a COLB from the State of Hawaii of his birth...and yes, even showing that Barack was born in Hawaii when he was actually born in Mombasa, Kenya! Happened all the time during that time period.
No.
This is a falsehood. You have no evidence or examples to support this claim.
COLBs were given by affidavit when even the birth place was not within Hawaii. This is a fact...
Not true! Many COLBs were issued by Hawaii to people showing they were born in Hawaii when in fact they were NOT born in Hawaii.
*hums while waiting for proof that will never come*
Sanrene, please read the above.
Even with Obama's records not available, surely there should be somebody else who could prove that S/HE had been born elsewhere but has a Hawaiian COLB that declares them to have been born in Hawaii.
I know of ONE false instance of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth (not Live Birth), from many decades before Obama's mother was born, let alone Obama - a wealthy and powerful man named Dr. Sun Yat Sen, if I am not mistaken.
http://sunyatsenhawaii.org/images/na/na1.jpg (broken link) was his application and
http://sunyatsenhawaii.org/images/doh/dh-1.jpg (broken link) is the resulting certificate. But this was from 1904, before the change, in 1911, to having a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth mean one of ancestry, rather than one of birthplace, like the Certificates of Live Birth.
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