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Unread 12-06-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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If Obama admits to his own citizen status as being governed by Great Britain at birth, how can he justify having singular loyalty to the United States at birth? Hence, Natural Born Citizen, as required by the Constitution?
"singular loyalty at birth" is the question, Kooter.

Is an AMERICAN bound by the laws of Britain?

So, if I were the government of an enemy state, I would simply do the following:

"The Nation of Sarcasia hereby bestows upon all Americans citizen status in our country. From this day forward, a child born to one of them shall be as if born here to us."

And forever more, there can be no American Presidents!

 
Unread 12-06-2008, 10:43 AM
 
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Where is it law that states that BOTH parents have to be born in the US to be a natural born citizen? Could not find it.
Where is it law that states a person born in the US is not a natural born US citizen? Same.. could not find it.
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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Where is it law that states that BOTH parents have to be born in the US to be a natural born citizen? Could not find it.
Where is it law that states a person born in the US is not a natural born US citizen? Same.. could not find it.

That's because they don't exist!
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Where is it law that states that BOTH parents have to be born in the US to be a natural born citizen? Could not find it.
Where is it law that states a person born in the US is not a natural born US citizen? Same.. could not find it.
Try this.

Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: southern california
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citizen??? yes he is ---but the people that continue to attack the president of the united states on CDF are too but not very good ones. how bout giving the new guy a chance. how bout a little of that john wayne action you say you love.. instead of............
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 10:54 AM
 
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"So let's follow the logic of those who claim Obama is a "Natural Born Citizen" and eligible for the presidency a little bit down the old logic chain.

Such a position means that, Osama Bin Laden could impregnate an American citizen, raise the child in a cave in Pakistan and that child could one day be elected to the office of U.S. President. Or to put it in terms that are more relevent to the framers of the constitution, King George III or one of his children could have married a U.S. citizen and the Tories in the U.S. could have elected the resulting offspring to continue the monarchy.

It requires two U.S. citizens to gain the status of "Natural Born Citizen" - Bin Laden, King George or his children would first have to gain American citizenship before their offspring would be eligible for the office."


If Bin Laden's child were born in America, to an American citizen who resides here, of course he or she would qualify to be POTUS.

Not sure if that child could or would ever win the election though.
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 11:13 AM
 
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"So let's follow the logic of those who claim Obama is a "Natural Born Citizen" and eligible for the presidency a little bit down the old logic chain.

Such a position means that, Osama Bin Laden could impregnate an American citizen, raise the child in a cave in Pakistan and that child could one day be elected to the office of U.S. President. Or to put it in terms that are more relevent to the framers of the constitution, King George III or one of his children could have married a U.S. citizen and the Tories in the U.S. could have elected the resulting offspring to continue the monarchy.

It requires two U.S. citizens to gain the status of "Natural Born Citizen" - Bin Laden, King George or his children would first have to gain American citizenship before their offspring would be eligible for the office."
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So let's follow the logic of those who claim Obama is a "natural born citizen" and eligible for the presidency a little bit down the old logic chain.

Such a position means that, Osama Bin Laden could impregnate an American citizen, raise the child in a cave in Pakistan and that child could one day be elected to the office of US president. Or to put it in terms that are more relevent to the framers of the constitution, King George III or one of his children could have married a US citizen and the Tories in the US could have elected the resulting offspring to continue the monarchy.

However, if I am right and it requires two US citizens to gain the status of "natural born citizen", Bin Laden, King George or his children would first have to gain American citizenship before their offspring would be eligible for the office.
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Kooter,

Please at least credit the folks we borrow from?
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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if bin laden's child were born in america, to an american citizen who resides here, of course he or she would qualify to be potus.

Not sure if that child could or would ever win the election though.
Absolutely WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 11:20 AM
 
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From your own link:

"Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

Plus others in list.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.
"
 
Unread 12-06-2008, 11:22 AM
 
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Absolutely WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely in dispute.
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