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Wow, what a tough guy. Gonna shoot an unarmed kid because he's taking down your free McCain sign? Jeez.
Actually I'm a grown woman...er, actually a grandmother with a pretty decent education and background. I'm just not one to put up with repeated attempts by hoodlums coming and yelling things at me as they deface or remove my right to free speech. As a woman, I would feel threatened that something more (escalation) would be in their minds since they keep coming back. I call it self defense by prevention methods.
Since I'm a single, white, middle-aged woman, a car with male teenagers coming up to my yard repeatedly and doing what's in the report would have more impact. Under those terms I would be fearing for my personal safetly. It's all about perspective depending on your demographics etc.
That is the point about this not being believable. I don't believe that those kids yelled anything. They might have been there vandalizing signs, but usually if you're going to do something even quasi-criminal, you don't announce it beforehand................
Well they couldn't of been too bright to begin with doing it when the person is clearly home, even on his porch from what's been said. Sounds like the little thugs wanted attention, they got it.
That is the point about this not being believable. I don't believe that those kids yelled anything. They might have been there vandalizing signs, but usually if you're going to do something even quasi-criminal, you don't announce it beforehand................
That is the point about this not being believable. I don't believe that those kids yelled anything. They might have been there vandalizing signs, but usually if you're going to do something even quasi-criminal, you don't announce it beforehand................
The guy was outside according to the report so I doubt they were trying to conceal themselves ESPECIALLY at 2 in the AFTERNOON.
He shot a trespasser who was defacing his property. Who cares what color he was? He was trespassing and he deserved what he got. He isn't dead, he got shot in the arm. I'm a better shot than that. Good thing he doesn't show up on my property.
...and if you do live in Maine your a$$ would be in jail too if you shot him under these facts...
A person is justified in using deadly force upon another person:
When the person reasonably believes it necessary and reasonably believes such other person is:
(1) About to use unlawful, deadly force against the person or a 3rd person; or
(2) Committing or about to commit a kidnapping, robbery or a violation of section 253, subsection
paragraph A, against the person or a 3rd person; or
B. When the person reasonably believes:
(1) That such other person has entered or is attempting to enter a dwelling place or has
surreptitiously remained within a dwelling place without a license or privilege to do so; and
(2) That deadly force is necessary to prevent the infliction of bodily injury by such other person
upon the person or a 3rd person present in the dwelling place
A person is justified in using deadly force upon another person:
When the person reasonably believes it necessary and reasonably believes such other person is:
(1) About to use unlawful, deadly force against the person or a 3rd person; or
(2) Committing or about to commit a kidnapping, robbery or a violation of section 253, subsection
paragraph A, against the person or a 3rd person; or
B. When the person reasonably believes:
(1) That such other person has entered or is attempting to enter a dwelling place or has
surreptitiously remained within a dwelling place without a license or privilege to do so; and
(2) That deadly force is necessary to prevent the infliction of bodily injury by such other person
upon the person or a 3rd person present in the dwelling place
Someone running towards you screaming like that kid did, would fall within the law as a legitimate reason. Quite reasonable to feel in danger in that situation.
I make jokes, get sarcastic, argue relentlessly and generally try to make my point on this forum. But this is something that just isn't in the same category as arguing politics...even nutty politics. This is a young life we are discussing and seriously....really, really seriously....some of you people scare the heck out of me. You honestly scare me.
Someone running towards you screaming like that kid did, would fall within the law as a legitimate reason. Quite reasonable to feel in danger in that situation.
...not sure where you practice law but I really beg to differ... deadly force is the last resort and the law deals with it accordingly. Most states make it clear through statute AND caselaw regarding this issue... you cannot shoot people in most states for "defending property ALONE". There must be a coupled threat of immediate harm to a person or person(s)...usually inside the dwelling...
I make jokes, get sarcastic, argue relentlessly and generally try to make my point on this forum. But this is something that just isn't in the same category as arguing politics...even nutty politics. This is a young life we are discussing and seriously....really, really seriously....some of you people scare the heck out of me. You honestly scare me.
This is a young life we are discussing and seriously....really, really seriously....some of you people scare the heck out of me. You honestly scare me.
and, luckily, that life was not lost, but the landowner was acting in such a way as to preserve his own life. Think about it. You are sitting on your porch, reading bleeding heart monthly or rolling stone or something and a van pulls up. The side door slides open and a young black male jumps out screaming at you. How would you react? Have you ever been a victim before? have you ever had your life threatened? It is a scary thing, I can't say I'd have reacted differently, I have been sitting on my porch and assaulted for no reason, had i a firearm, i would not have been assaulted.
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