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Old 10-29-2008, 12:45 AM
 
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I think something that is very telling is occuring where my wife works. She is a chemist for a major corporation. Since we can't teach math or science worth a damn she works with a lot of people from other countries. They are requesting to go back to their countries in droves. They don't want to be here anymore. They are losing faith in the United States. My wife told me that her boss, who is from Scotland commented "Why are you Americans so afraid of "socialist" Obama when Bush just went ahead and socialized the stock market and banks?" His opinion is the C.E.O.s are no different than the crack addled mother waiting for the first of the month. They are both waiting for their handout. The only difference is their spending priorities.

Part of the problem is this "either you are with us or against us mentality" of Bush. The fact is what the rest of the world thinks of us matters a lot. We need foreign labor to keep our economy going. We do not have enough scientists coming through our Universities. Tomi is an entry level Chemist. She has two bosses. One is from Scotland, the other China. As a middle school math teacher I can assure you we will not produce enough scientists and mathematicians with today's educational structure. I could go on for days about the faults of No Child Left Behind, but the truth of the matter is both sides of the aisle helped to make public education the mess it is today. Most kids don't attend Naperville Central or Clements high or New Trier. They attend schools such as Alief Taylor, Taft High School in Chicago etc. They are woefully unprepared for higher education.

Because of this, a foreigner's perception of our country is very important. These scientists do not like Bush. And because Bush is affiliated with McCain, they do not like him either. They see McCain pick Palin and wonder what the hell is wrong with the Republican party. They see the financial mess we are in and wonder "Where is Bush?" Why isn't he on T.V. four nights a week trying to calm our nerves? Reagan would have been there. Clinton and Bush Sr. also. They would have at least tried. Instead, when times get tough we are stuck with this tough talking cowboy who shrivels up like George Castanza's penis after coming out of the pool.

I don't agree with a lot of Obama's policies. But you know what? He acts like a leader. He offers ideas. What has McCain done? Attacked Obama's associates. That's fine and dandy, but this is 2008. We don't believe in Camelot anymore. We know all politicians have dirty hands from washing the backs of the unsavory. At this point it's about bringing the country together. Bush is no uniter. He is a divider. And McCain has changed. He is not the same maverick politician of old. He is a sell out. Choosing Palin over so many others proved this. We need somebody that has some semblence of leadership who will place importance on unification. And right now that person appears to be Barack Obama. If he is a radical loon with his policies, we vote him out. We lived through Carter. I just hope to God the Republicans can give us something a lot better than what they have to offer now if this is the case. And if McCain wins, I certainly hope he proves me wrong and shows the world he is a uniter. When you go around singing "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran," you give many people doubts. Especially the upper level foreign workers we so desperately need.

And please, whether you agree with me or not go out and vote. All of our voices need to be heard now more than ever. Thank you for taking time to read my two cents.

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:21 AM
 
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Well written.

Improvements in education (in whatever form) are important to me.
Along with a renewed focus on innovation (hopefully) and science/math.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:35 AM
 
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great post. glad you wrote it
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:41 AM
 
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I think something that is very telling is occuring where my wife works. She is a chemist for a major corporation. Since we can't teach math or science worth a damn she works with a lot of people from other countries. They are requesting to go back to their countries in droves. They don't want to be here anymore. They are losing faith in the United States. My wife told me that her boss, who is from Scotland commented "Why are you Americans so afraid of "socialist" Obama when Bush just went ahead and socialized the stock market and banks?" His opinion is the C.E.O.s are no different than the crack addled mother waiting for the first of the month. They are both waiting for their handout. The only difference is their spending priorities.

Part of the problem is this "either you are with us or against us mentality" of Bush. The fact is what the rest of the world thinks of us matters a lot. We need foreign labor to keep our economy going. We do not have enough scientists coming through our Universities. Tomi is an entry level Chemist. She has two bosses. One is from Scotland, the other China. As a middle school math teacher I can assure you we will not produce enough scientists and mathematicians with today's educational structure. I could go on for days about the faults of No Child Left Behind, but the truth of the matter is both sides of the aisle helped to make public education the mess it is today. Most kids don't attend Naperville Central or Clements high or New Trier. They attend schools such as Alief Taylor, Taft High School in Chicago etc. They are woefully unprepared for higher education.

Because of this, a foreigner's perception of our country is very important. These scientists do not like Bush. And because Bush is affiliated with McCain, they do not like him either. They see McCain pick Palin and wonder what the hell is wrong with the Republican party. They see the financial mess we are in and wonder "Where is Bush?" Why isn't he on T.V. four nights a week trying to calm our nerves? Reagan would have been there. Clinton and Bush Sr. also. They would have at least tried. Instead, when times get tough we are stuck with this tough talking cowboy who shrivels up like George Castanza's penis after coming out of the pool.

I don't agree with a lot of Obama's policies. But you know what? He acts like a leader. He offers ideas. What has McCain done? Attacked Obama's associates. That's fine and dandy, but this is 2008. We don't believe in Camelot anymore. We know all politicians have dirty hands from washing the backs of the unsavory. At this point it's about bringing the country together. Bush is no uniter. He is a divider. And McCain has changed. He is not the same maverick politician of old. He is a sell out. Choosing Palin over so many others proved this. We need somebody that has some semblence of leadership who will place importance on unification. And right now that person appears to be Barack Obama. If he is a radical loon with his policies, we vote him out. We lived through Carter. I just hope to God the Republicans can give us something a lot better than what they have to offer now if this is the case. And if McCain wins, I certainly hope he proves me wrong and shows the world he is a uniter. When you go around singing "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran," you give many people doubts. Especially the upper level foreign workers we so desperately need.

And please, whether you agree with me or not go out and vote. All of our voices need to be heard now more than ever. Thank you for taking time to read my two cents.

we have had 8 years of bush being a bad president and during that time we have both a republican congress and a democratic congress, with the last 2 years being a democratic congress. i think that the last 2 years were the worst 2 years in the history of our country under democratic leadership. now obama views the constitution as a flawed document and wants to revisit economic redistribution. you may be an idealist and "hope" for change, but i am a realist and vote based on what damage the democrats have actually done to the taxpayers!
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:48 AM
 
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we have had 8 years of bush being a bad president and during that time we have both a republican congress and a democratic congress, with the last 2 years being a democratic congress. i think that the last 2 years were the worst 2 years in the history of our country under democratic leadership. now obama views the constitution as a flawed document and wants to revisit economic redistribution. you may be an idealist and "hope" for change, but i am a realist and vote based on what damage the democrats have actually done to the taxpayers!
.The dems have ruined us??WOW....clueless doesn't even begin to touch you does it.Do you happen to know what google is?You might want to use it.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:57 AM
 
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we have had 8 years of bush being a bad president and during that time we have both a republican congress and a democratic congress, with the last 2 years being a democratic congress. i think that the last 2 years were the worst 2 years in the history of our country under democratic leadership. now obama views the constitution as a flawed document and wants to revisit economic redistribution. you may be an idealist and "hope" for change, but i am a realist and vote based on what damage the democrats have actually done to the taxpayers!
Right, Dems and their policies have done this and they refuse to take responsibility. It is all to easy to blame this on Bush, that is their mantra. The economy would not have tanked had the Dems listened to reason! I really think this was a plan by corrupt organizations (Acorn) to flood the system with bad mortgages, these people don't give one **** about this country.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:58 AM
 
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I don't think people realize just how dependent we are on foreign labor when it comes to technology and the sciences. Until we do something about our educational structure, their opinion counts more than ever. We cannot compete without these people. They are crucial to our economy.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:04 AM
 
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First of all, we don't choose our presidents based on what people from other countries want. Second, the bailout isn't all Bush and you know it. Nancy Pelosi was the big cheerleader for that and the Democratic congresss has a lot to do with the mess we are in. I know you want to blame everything under the sun on Bush, but not everything is his fault and the bailout certainly is not his fault.

It would be a cold day in hell before I'd vote for a socialist.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:05 AM
 
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OP: Great post.

I think the recent economic crisis proves more than ever that we're more interlinked with other nations than a lot of Americans want to believe. America isn't the only one bailing out the boat right now. It definitely matters what the rest of the world thinks of us. Especially considering how much money we owe them, how much money they have invested in our stock market and how paper thin our military is stretched right now.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:07 AM
 
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I don't think people realize just how dependent we are on foreign labor when it comes to technology and the sciences. Until we do something about our educational structure, their opinion counts more than ever. We cannot compete without these people. They are crucial to our economy.
I agree,and Bush has made us a laughing stock around the world.

Soon,some will come in here & say "Who cares what the rest of the world think ? We are The Almighty USA!" bla bla bla.
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