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Old 11-01-2008, 10:17 AM
 
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Divorce agreements, child support, etc., are under the purview of the courts, and as such court records are PUBLIC RECORDS, unless specifically sealed by the judge due to special circumstances.
True, I have looked up divorce and child support records many times myself.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:27 AM
 
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What you said means that Joe the "Plumber" was the one who contacted the state agency about his case. ????

Where do you come up with that? I didn't "say" anything, I just copied part of the article here. I understand that the employee ordered to look up the information was told that Joe the Plumber had contacted them.



OK, in your OP it was stated: "...when she was asked to run a child-support check on Samuel JosephWurzelbauer on Oct. 16, she thought it was routine. A supervisor told her the MAN had contacted the state agency about his case.""""

The only MAN mentioned is JOE.

""""Now, here's where I ask you , since you believe the bush administration can look into our lives and tap our phones and it's OK since you've done nothing wrong....then it's perfectly OK for "Joe" to be investigated .....if he's done nothing wrong then why would he have to worry???????

The Bush Administration is looking for people who are terrorist or have terrorist connections, who are a threat to our national security. They are not looking up information on average citizens just trying to make a living and using it against them like the Obama campaign is.""

It has been proven that ALL citizens may be spied on...and REPUBS response hasn't been outrage at the loose "guidlines"...they only chant "if you haven't done anything wrong then you don't have to worry"....SO...JOE doesn't have to worry and neither do you!
luzianne in red. Who?Me?! in black.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:27 AM
 
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I don't think it has anything to do with him not having a license. The outrage is more due to him misrepresenting himself from the beginning. His first words were (paraphrasing) "I'm getting ready to buy a business that makes over 250,000". It gave the impression that he was in the process of purchasing this plumbing business. Also, from my understanding the only conversation that he had with his boss was at his interview when he was hired where it was stated that "maybe one day you will be able to purchase this business."

In addition, if he really was in the process of buying this business, I would think that he would need a license at that point since he would be the Employer. So it is not about him having a license if he had represented reality in his questions. Instead he took a hypothetical situation and presented it as his own and did not clarify that his questions were based on what his dreams were and not what was reality. He may never be in the position to purchase that particular plumbing business and if so it may be years in the future.
I'd like to see a video of this. I remember it went more like, "I'm thinking about buying..."
You are correct that he would need to have the license if he were to actually buy or start a plumbing business.
I was referring to all the outrage on this forum. Reread posts, "he's not a real plumber," "He's not a plumber. He doesn't have a license." etc...
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:28 AM
 
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The Columbus Dispatch : State employee says she was ordered to check out Joe the Plumber

Vanessa Niekamp said that when she was asked to run a child-support check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16, she thought it routine. A supervisor told her the man had contacted the state agency about his case.
I'm sure Obama had something to do with that.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I'd like to see a video of this. I remember it went more like, "I'm thinking about buying..."
You are correct that he would need to have the license if he were to actually buy or start a plumbing business.
I was referring to all the outrage on this forum. Reread posts, "he's not a real plumber," "He's not a plumber. He doesn't have a license." etc...

Here you go
YouTube - Obama Explains His Tax Cut Plans To Plumbing Business Owner. Listen to his first statement.

The forum outrage I can't explain as posters who made those comments would need to explain the reasons themselves.
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Old 11-01-2008, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I'm sure Obama had something to do with that.
I think he has better things to do these days.
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:04 PM
 
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Here you go
YouTube - Obama Explains His Tax Cut Plans To Plumbing Business Owner. Listen to his first statement.

The forum outrage I can't explain as posters who made those comments would need to explain the reasons themselves.
OK thanks. He does say "I'm getting ready to buy..."
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Old 11-01-2008, 03:03 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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This has all gone from the stupid to the insane.... I've never seen so many people try so hard to justify bad behavior by doing everything they can to misdirect the blame from the perps to the victim.

Thank god I can sit back and just laugh about this whole thing!
Obama the terrorist loving socialist antiwhite guy and McCain the forgetful,warmonger old racist dude.....
Boy are we screwed no matter which gets in.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:17 PM
 
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jimj, McCain is not a racist. He may be old, at times forgetful,he's white, being a warmonger is debatable, although he's seen his share of combat and is not afraid of a fight. But he's not a racist. And before this election, no one ever accused him of that. I'm making mention of this, because yours is exactly the kind of comment that gets repeated over and over again, and yet it has no basis in fact. It's like when people say Obama is a Muslim. His grandfather was a Muslim; he has a Muslim name; he has Muslim friends. But no, he himself is not a Muslim.

I hope you won't repeat your untrue comment about Sen. McCain any longer, and think before you speak and post.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:34 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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jimj, McCain is not a racist. He may be old, at times forgetful,he's white, being a warmonger is debatable, although he's seen his share of combat and is not afraid of a fight. But he's not a racist. And before this election, no one ever accused him of that. I'm making mention of this, because yours is exactly the kind of comment that gets repeated over and over again, and yet it has no basis in fact. It's like when people say Obama is a Muslim. His grandfather was a Muslim; he has a Muslim name; he has Muslim friends. But no, he himself is not a Muslim.

I hope you won't repeat your untrue comment about Sen. McCain any longer, and think before you speak and post.
But that's not what loyal followers of both sides have been saying (or many times much worse) to each other and about both canidates on these very boards, I just compressed it into one post instead of sprinkling it across many posts to hopefully put a mirrior in front of everyone so they can see how it looks to someone who's looking at it as a whole and concerned at how low we've sunk.

I noticed you didn't ask for me to stop repeating these comments about Obama, only McCain.... Interesting....

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