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We should be frightened that people are that stupid? I already figured that one out. It's past time for me to be frightened of it.
Sounds like you're using scare tactics. I think quite a lot of what politicians say is smoke and mirrors. Why should that make us regret voting for him? It's one thing if the person doesn't manage to accomplish the lofty things he claims he's going to and quite another if he creates some situation wherein some of us perhaps don't live to regret voting for him. Don't you think you sound a little melodramatic?
No, I don't. I wish I were. I believe that Obama will take this country in a very wrong direction ... one that will eventually make many regret they voted for him. Many people don't have any idea who he is or what his intentions are for our country. They only know he promises "change" and that they will be better off for it.
There's a possibility that some will be initially better off, if only because they have such faith that the positive energy alone is a marked improvement. What I worry more about is the security of our nation against those who want to do us harm. Somehow people seem to have forgotten that is still a very real threat and are focusing on their pocketbooks instead of on their safety.
We are so divided that our eyes are off the ball ... and that is very dangerous. So no. I'm not being melodramatic at all.
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Either way, I think this is really petty. I could understand it if it were entertaining. We have a lot of Palin threads that are totally irrelevant but entertaining nonetheless, and Biden has said some harmless but stupid things, too, but this just isn't worth discussing.
If this is all "really petty" and it's not "entertaining" for you, I fail to understand why you are spending any time on it.
Silly Obama. That's what you get for giving a kid too many toys to play with.
Lol
But anyways back to reality. 8 years of failed Bush policies. Obama serves better for the Youth Generation. Not to the people who are wealthy middle aged. They will be better off with Mccain.
No, I don't. I wish I were. I believe that Obama will take this country in a very wrong direction ... one that will eventually make many regret they voted for him. Many people don't have any idea who he is or what his intentions are for our country. They only know he promises "change" and that they will be better off for it.
My first guess (which might change as his term begins and I have more information on what he's doing) is that he won't do much at all. It's not like he alone is running the show. I feel like a lot of what he intends to do isn't going to get done simply because he wants it. If it turns out that the majority of others want it, also, then we'll see some of that change. Right now I envision a comparatively uneventful presidency (compared to the last two terms) when things settle down. Just how I see it at the moment.
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There's a possibility that some will be initially better off, if only because they have such faith that the positive energy alone is a marked improvement. What I worry more about is the security of our nation against those who want to do us harm. Somehow people seem to have forgotten that is still a very real threat and are focusing on their pocketbooks instead of on their safety.
See, I don't think that his being in office worsens our chances of being attacked by terrorists. I think it'll be positive in that respect, if anything.
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We are so divided that our eyes are off the ball ... and that is very dangerous. So no. I'm not being melodramatic at all.
I disagree. I really feel like the polarization is largely manufactured by the media and magnified somehow on forums like this. I don't see it in my interactions with people elsewhere. I think it's exaggerated.
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If this is all "really petty" and it's not "entertaining" for you, I fail to understand why you are spending any time on it.
Just because there are people who don't feel that way at all and I'm throwing my perspective out there.
The problem is he doesn't say anything. He & Biden say 2 different things. Obama is the king of spin. No one really knows what the change will be once he is in office OTHER than:
1. More taxes
2. Less military
3. Less National security
4. Socialism - speading the wealth around. Obama said this himself (the spreading the wealth around part).
I don't know if it is intellectual dishonestly or simply an inability to read and comprehend basic words. I would think a fairly bright 8 year old would be able to understand the contextual difference between "I will change the world" and "together, you and I will change the world."
~ButterBrownBiscuit~
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Wow, are you sneaks and weasels offline, too? That must suck to be that way.
The thread title is "Arrogant Obama: I Will Change the World."
See the point, or not? If you honestly dont then that's all right, never mind.
...............I feel like a lot of what he intends to do isn't going to get done simply because he wants it. If it turns out that the majority of others want it, also, then we'll see some of that change. Right now I envision a comparatively uneventful presidency (compared to the last two terms) when things settle down. Just how I see it at the moment.
See, I don't think that his being in office worsens our chances of being attacked by terrorists. I think it'll be positive in that respect, if anything.
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I wish I agreed. I believe Obama will pretty much get done anything he wants (which is my concern) because he'll have Pelosi, Reid, along with a majority of both the House and the Senate.
I deeply hope it will be an uneventful presidency. I could deal with that.
I don't know if we're more of less likely to be attacked under Obama. It was Biden who said that we were. My concern lies more in how Obama will respond to such an attack.
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I don't know if it is intellectual dishonestly or simply an inability to read and comprehend basic words. I would think a fairly bright 8 year old would be able to understand the contextual difference between "I will change the world" and "together, you and I will change the world."
~ButterBrownBiscuit~
Speaking only for myself, I totally understand the difference between those two sentences. The only problem is that Obama did not say the latter, he uttered the former.
I guess it's OT, but Biden does concern me. I don't know that I'd be comfortable if Obama were the one in his seventies and we thought it was very likely that he (Biden) would be president at some point. I don't know if he just says goofy things and has this sense of humor that only he seems to get, or if his gaffes should be taken more seriously. Whatever the case, I'm not really sure that I like him.
"I promise you. We won't just win New Hampshire. We will win this election and, you and I together, we're going to change the country and change the world."
~ButterBrownBiscuit~
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Speaking only for myself, I totally understand the difference between those two sentences. The only problem is that Obama did not say the latter, he uttered the former.
Sorry, Butter, you have to do better than that. I'm not saying he never said that. I'm talking about the OP. He was quoted as saying "I will change the world". I simply don't have the time or desire to find it.
You haven't identified when he said it, where he said it or even if he said it.
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