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Old 11-02-2008, 07:17 PM
 
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i think that the majority of americans voting against obama will be doing so based on his rejection of the constitution, his huge spending agenda, his nationalized lower quality healthcare plan, his plan to use american taxpayer money to address world issues, his pro illegal immigration stance, and the fact that any clear-thinking person would realize that he cannot promise everything to everybody and keep these promises, just like the democratic controlled congress of the last 2 years (including barack obama and joe biden) broke all of their campaign promises to the american people!
1) Obama has not "rejected" the Constitution. He's a professor of Constitutional Law, for chrissakes.

2) His health care plan is not a plan for "nationalization."

3) I don't know what you mean when you say "his plan to use american taxpayer money to address world issues"

4) McCain wants a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

5) If you want to talk about "broken promises," look back on the last 8 years.
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:22 PM
 
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Does everyone realize how long overdue this nation is for having a person of color as President? And I think it equally exciting were this man not being elected President we would now all be talking instead about our first woman President, and I totally understand why Hillary did not want to give up on her own historic bid. She would have been our first woman Pres. and after 8 years of Obama, she likely will not be running for Pres. in 2016.

Let it be known that she was the first woman to seriously challenge for President, and there will be others. Finally America is moving past our hang ups with race and looking beyond this as Obama nears this historic moment.

At least most of us, anyway. God Bless America
Now I hope I am still here in 2016 to watch this. I can see it now Hillary vs Palin. Any takers on who will win. I say Hillary by a landslide. This could actually be the time that Your entire Country turns BLUE don't you think.
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:23 PM
 
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1) Obama has not "rejected" the Constitution. He's a professor of Constitutional Law, for chrissakes.

2) His health care plan is not a plan for "nationalization."

3) I don't know what you mean when you say "his plan to use american taxpayer money to address world issues"

4) McCain wants a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

5) If you want to talk about "broken promises," look back on the last 8 years.

!) he is a socialist of the Marxist stripe, I hear Ayers is a professor now too doesnt make him any better either

2) you are right , it is for socialized medicine unless you have a job and then you get to pay more f or yours and the guy without a job's

3) Try reading his Africa plans then get back to us.

4)Mccain wants border security first , but sadly , yes he does support a path to citizenship for illegals
Obama just wants to legalize em and leave the borders wide open.

5) if you want to talk about who made em and who broke them we sure can, if you want to blame Mccain for Bush and Pellosi and Reid and Frank and Dodd's messes , then you need to get a grip on reality.

in the meantime , Obama hasnt done a damned thing
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:26 PM
 
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Now I hope I am still here in 2016 to watch this. I can see it now Hillary vs Palin. Any takers on who will win. I say Hillary by a landslide. This could actually be the time that Your entire Country turns BLUE don't you think.

depends on several variables

if Obama is elected and the country survives the depression he will cause, Hillary will lose

if Mccain wins and things go well Hillary will lose




If there are troubles or Mccain goofs on something Hillary will win

I despise Hillary's politics , but she is 1000 times the candidate Obama could ever hope to be
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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Now I hope I am still here in 2016 to watch this. I can see it now Hillary vs Palin. Any takers on who will win. I say Hillary by a landslide. This could actually be the time that Your entire Country turns BLUE don't you think.
Excellent post! That would be incredible wouldn't it? Nice thoughts.
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:33 PM
 
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A good candidate who happens to be the child of mixed race that does not carry the burden of slavery is amazing!
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:34 PM
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All Americans carry the burden of slavery, because it is an institution that ultimately hindered our progress as a nation.
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:38 PM
 
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All Americans carry the burden of slavery, because it is an institution that ultimately hindered our progress as a nation.
I agree with that, but I also think that being a man who never had a history of slavery to contend with personally is a liberating thing. The fact that he was brought up in many cultures, gives him an insight that few have of the many American cultures.
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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1) Obama has not "rejected" the Constitution. He's a professor of Constitutional Law, for chrissakes..
Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar Lawyer (until he lost his license) so what's your point?

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2) His health care plan is not a plan for "nationalization."
No, forcing everyone to insure their kids is what exactly?

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3) I don't know what you mean when you say "his plan to use american taxpayer money to address world issues"
I'm a little confused on this one as well

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4) McCain wants a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
And that's why McCain isn't too bad a misguided Democrat himself...

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5) If you want to talk about "broken promises," look back on the last 8 years
Try looking back on the last 20!
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:00 PM
 
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I"m not voting for Obama, but I'm very excited about him becoming the first black president, should it happen. I think it will make minorities realize that we're not a fundamentally racist country anymore, and inspire them to aim higher than they otherwise would have. Will it purge all of our racial demons...probably not, but if anything good will come out of an Obama presidency, it will be that he broke down a major barrier for blacks and minorities. I'll be very proud of him and will wish him the best.

On a side note, it will show the rest of the world the same thing. I love europe, but there's a certain smug self righteousness there about America that's going to be smacked down if Obama is elected, especially since they have little regard for their own minorities. I look forward to that.
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