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Old 11-03-2008, 02:08 PM
 
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That's not true!
The Forrestal fire changed how naval vessels fight fires.
After that disaster all hands were trained to fight fires on board. Before that, it was the duty of damage control.
Pilots are not even considered crew of the carrier anyway. They are a flight group attached to a carrier.

Beyond all that. I can only assume that you were there on the Forrestal to have such intimate knowledge of where, what, and how McCain reacted to the fire.
Job codes go out the window when the deck is an inferno, regardless of the rules before or after this event.
Anyway, so you;re just telling me he would have been neglectful of duty if this had happened after the all hands rule was adopted. Thanks for the help proving my point..

They probably changed it because of cowards like him.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:08 PM
 
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Obama does not have what it takes to be in the military. Probably why he never joined.
um, or he chose to go to Columbia and Harvard. so that's not good enough for you?
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:13 PM
 
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Joined on Oct 30, 2008 and 527 posts. Get a job!
My hubby wouldn't like that. See, we employ about 40 people. That's the nice part of owning a business. Free time is at a surplus!
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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My hubby wouldn't like that. See, we employ about 40 people. That's the nice part of owning a business. Free time is at a surplus!
And your voting for Obama?
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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And your voting for Obama?
You got that right. We haven't voted Republican since daddy Bush and probably never will again, considering they treat their fellow country men like dirt.

That's "COUNTRY FIRST" FOR YA!
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:18 PM
 
Location: northeast headed southwest
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Aw, you all are going to be such sore losers tomorrow
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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As I said you are a bigger person than I.
Nope, if I had a problem with Wright, I probably wouldn't forgive Obama (not that he needs my forgiveness) for having attended his church. Like I said, I don't take the high road, and if I were genuinely offended by Wright's rhetoric, I would hold a grudge against Obama for having attended the church. So, this is not a matter of being a bigger person. I guess it's a disagreement.

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The virulent hate exploding forth from his pulpit made me cringe. Obama listened, absorbed and, by his attendance, gave approval of it for 20 years and you are able to look past this.
Brava!
I don't interpret it as hate. Anger--yeah. He sounds like a lot of other passionate preachers to me. I'm not a religious person, but Wright in particular resonates with me a bit, basically because his messages (what I've read) are very political. I don't agree with everything, but a lot of his politics make sense to me. He reminds me a little of one of my heroes, Malik el-Shabazz (a.k.a. Malcolm X).
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:20 PM
 
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You have been able to look beyond Barack Obama's 20 year attendance at radical anti-semite, anti-american, and anti white Jeremiah Wright's Church of Hate and see something that has escaped me.
You are truly bigger people than I.

Bigger and smarter.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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You got that right. We haven't voted Republican since daddy Bush and probably never will again, considering they treat their fellow country men like dirt.

That's "COUNTRY FIRST" FOR YA!

Find it hard to believe you own a company with 40 employees and voting for Obama.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:28 PM
 
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Find it hard to believe you own a company with 40 employees and voting for Obama.
I imagine you would, since "conservatives"are only out for themselves these days and think that going back to a pre Bush tax set up is socialism.

I guess Nixon and other Repubs were full blown commies. You don't even want me to tell you what the top bracket had to pay back then, under a CONSERVATIVE.
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