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Old 11-03-2008, 01:05 PM
 
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Bible Study - The Two Kinds Of Pride

Selfish pride can be defined as "excessive confidence or glorification in one's self, possessions or nation." The concept is found in The Bible, along with pride itself, in words such as arrogance, haughtiness and conceit, among others, all of which are opposite of Godly humility. The wrongness of self-centered pride is essentially twofold. On a spiritual level, it inevitably leads to disregard, disrespect and disobedience to God i.e. self-centered pride is primarily what transformed the once-righteous Lucifer into the wicked Satan after he became too impressed with himself: "I will make myself like the Most High" (Isaiah 14:14 RSV, see also Born To Be Wild?). On a worldly level, selfish pride very often results in self-destructive behavior because, while a form of self-delusion, it isn't necessarily as much an overestimation of one's self as it is a dangerous underestimation of others, hence "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall" (Proverbs 16:18 RSV). The Bible also speaks of a good pride, but it differs greatly from selfish pride.


Hmmmm....who is this describing?
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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Bill O'Reilly
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

Obama from the start has been humbled by the outpouring of support while McCain has displayed a sense of entitlement to the presidency.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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Uh, the Republican campaign is the one boasting, showing pride, and demeaning its opponent. And yes, pride doth come before a fall > see Nov 4th. Obama has been extremely humble this entire time. You have the right to your opinion, but I just for the life of me cannot understand how red your glasses must be to think that Obama has been the prideful one.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:08 PM
 
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McCain is a wicked man about as Christian as Yassar Arafat was.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:09 PM
 
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When someone resorts to using religion & the bible to argue their "point", they've lost all credibility.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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When someone resorts to using religion & the bible to argue their "point", they've lost all credibility.
God punishes those who use His words to promote their agenda. McCain will not be exempt from this punishment.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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When someone resorts to using religion & the bible to argue their "point", they've lost all credibility.
Yeah, that
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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Bible Study - The Two Kinds Of Pride

Selfish pride can be defined as "excessive confidence or glorification in one's self, possessions or nation." The concept is found in The Bible, along with pride itself, in words such as arrogance, haughtiness and conceit, among others, all of which are opposite of Godly humility. The wrongness of self-centered pride is essentially twofold. On a spiritual level, it inevitably leads to disregard, disrespect and disobedience to God i.e. self-centered pride is primarily what transformed the once-righteous Lucifer into the wicked Satan after he became too impressed with himself: "I will make myself like the Most High" (Isaiah 14:14 RSV, see also Born To Be Wild?). On a worldly level, selfish pride very often results in self-destructive behavior because, while a form of self-delusion, it isn't necessarily as much an overestimation of one's self as it is a dangerous underestimation of others, hence "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall" (Proverbs 16:18 RSV). The Bible also speaks of a good pride, but it differs greatly from selfish pride.


Hmmmm....who is this describing?
I'll take a guess: The Religious Right?
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:13 PM
 
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Keep your damn bible crap out of campaigns, elections, all politics, and all public areas please.

Thanks
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