My thoughts on the whole issues with Obama's tax plan (money, programs)

[tb4000]

I don't get this "Why should my money be taken from me and given to people who don't deserve it" attitude. I mean, I get the basics of it, but I don't get how people can rely on this as a position.

That's a really, really, really broad and vague statement to make about taxes.

Tax money goes to taxes, and tax-run programs (which is what, almost EVERYTHING?), not just "people who don't deserve it". Taxes pay for much more than "people who don't deserve it". They pay for so many services it's not funny. There are probably some people who don't deserve they money a tax program affords them who are going to benefit (just like now), but to pretend that all the tax money a wealthy person pays is going to go to some "black hole of society" just makes no sense to me. It's beyond absurd.

I personally feel that the top earners should (or do) pay more in the way of taxes, simply because that's how it works mathmatically when you take percentages of income into account. Now, I don't know if it's as simple as asking them to pay the same "percentage", because I don't quite know in detail how tax law works.

As for the tax cuts for the lower income brackets...if that's NOT done, the lower income brackets won't be buying or won't be able to afford the products and services that many of those in higher income brackets were able to use to become wealthy in the first place. And then everyone suffers.

[Po the Patriot]

Originally Posted by tb4000

I don't get this "Why should my money be taken from me and given to people who don't deserve it" attitude. I mean, I get the basics of it, but I don't get how people can rely on this as a position.

That's a really, really, really broad and vague statement to make about taxes.

Tax money goes to taxes, and tax-run programs (which is what, almost EVERYTHING?), not just "people who don't deserve it". Taxes pay for much more than "people who don't deserve it". They pay for so many services it's not funny. There are probably some people who don't deserve they money a tax program affords them who are going to benefit (just like now), but to pretend that all the tax money a wealthy person pays is going to go to some "black hole of society" just makes no sense to me. It's beyond absurd.

I personally feel that the top earners should (or do) pay more in the way of taxes, simply because that's how it works mathmatically when you take percentages of income into account. Now, I don't know if it's as simple as asking them to pay the same "percentage", because I don't quite know in detail how tax law works.

As for the tax cuts for the lower income brackets...if that's NOT done, the lower income brackets won't be buying or won't be able to afford the products and services that many of those in higher income brackets were able to use to become wealthy in the first place. And then everyone suffers.

the difference in progressive tax

which is when the Gov taxes you on percentile and uses it to fund our public services etc


and socialism / Obama's plan

is that the raising of tax on the higher earners is not to fund public services etc , but expressly to give that money to people who the Gov, feels need it more than you do as a form of "social justice " in Obama's own words




It is like night and day

one is acceptable , the other is not

and on the face of it ,raising taxes on anyone in a recession is stupid and raising taxes on the investors/ job creators in a recession will lead to a depression