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Old 11-04-2008, 12:10 PM
 
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it is the truth and your personal attacks are getting tiresome
You called me a traitor to my country. The ultimate insult to someone who served this country and whose father died in Vietnam. It's an insult to all troops and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Cry me a river big, tough "soldier".

When you're ready to apologize, then I'll be neutral when we debate things.

Until then, deal with it.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:18 PM
 
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I asked him the other day, how restoring the tax structure to where it was pre-Bush = socialism.

Unsurprisingly, he had no answer.
The restoring the taxes to Clinton time isnt socialist, its just pissin off the rich fat cats, no more welfare for the rich, but hell, they already drained off everything but the bones anyway.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:22 PM
 
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The restoring the taxes to Clinton time isnt socialist, its just pissin off the rich fat cats, no more welfare for the rich, but hell, they already drained off everything but the bones anyway.
The silliest thing of all is that Po probably isn't even wealthy.

This tax increase actually may affect my husband and I. I am voting Obama. Funny that eh?

Some of these people's eyeballs would pop from their heads if they knew what Nixon and other Repubs set the top rates at.

If Obama is a socialist, then I guess those Repub presidents who had substantially higher rates implemented are devout communists.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:24 PM
 
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You called me a traitor to my country. The ultimate insult to someone who served this country and whose father died in Vietnam. It's an insult to all troops and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Cry me a river big, tough "soldier".

When you're ready to apologize, then I'll be neutral when we debate things.

Until then, deal with it.


I stand by what I said concerning Obama supporters

you cannot show me any post I made that specifically calls you any such thing.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:27 PM
 
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The silliest thing of all is that Po probably isn't even wealthy.

This tax increase actually may affect my husband and I. I am voting Obama. Funny that eh?

Some of these people's eyeballs would pop from their heads if they knew what Nixon and other Repubs set the top rates at.

If Obama is a socialist, then I guess those Repub presidents who had substantially higher rates implemented are devout communists.

You simply cannot grasp the difference in wealth redistribution and progressive taxes , they are not the same thing.

until that sinks in we have no common framework of understanding to proceed from.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:27 PM
 
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PLease keep on topic and let's stop the personal insults, ok?
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:33 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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A vote for McCain is a vote for the same war-mongering, corporate welfare crap we had under Bush. You really want that?
Is there a parrot in here?????

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Even McCain said Obama ISN'T a socialist. Same smears said when Clinton was winning.. bleh bleh.

McCain did say he sees us in Iraq 100 years. WAR for 100 Years!! NO to McInsane !!
Even the Obama people have stopped railing about this. We have won in Iraq ... didn't you get the memo????

So McCain said Obama isn't a Socialist. So that's that? I don't think so. No one will really know for sure whether he is or not until and if he becomes President. Then it will be too late.

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Guess what?
I do not have to believe the same way about Obama as Mccain does , he is not my God.
He is simply the lesser of two evils.

Obama IS a socialist by Karl Marx's own definition.
Unfortunately, this is true. By Marx's definition, Obama is a Socialist. There's no getting around it.

If you believe in Socialism which I know many here do, then you'll love Obama if he gets the chance to govern.

But I still believe that's not going to happen.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:37 PM
 
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Is there a parrot in here?????



Even the Obama people have stopped railing about this. We have won in Iraq ... didn't you get the memo????

So McCain said Obama isn't a Socialist. So that's that? I don't think so. No one will really know for sure whether he is or not until and if he becomes President. Then it will be too late.



Unfortunately, this is true. By Marx's definition, Obama is a Socialist. There's no getting around it.

If you believe in Socialism which I know many here do, then you'll love Obama if he gets the chance to govern.

But I still believe that's not going to happen.
'We have won in Iraq ... didn't you get the memo????'

How stupid can you get. We won huh? By spending 12 billion a month to put a soldeir on every street corner - that you call winning? McInsane would like to pay 12 billion a month for the next 100 years, thats even more winning for you. We really won when we killed a million Iraqis and made 2 million more run from their homes. Really winning huh? And the icing is the 4,000+ dead American soldiers. JACKPOT!
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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'We have won in Iraq ... didn't you get the memo????'

How stupid can you get. We won huh? By spending 12 billion a month to put a soldeir on every street corner - that you call winning? McInsane would like to pay 12 billion a month for the next 100 years, thats even more winning for you. We really won when we killed a million Iraqis and made 2 million more run from their homes. Really winning huh? And the icing is the 4,000+ dead American soldiers. JACKPOT!
Bin Laden agrees with you.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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Is there a parrot in here?????



Even the Obama people have stopped railing about this. We have won in Iraq ... didn't you get the memo????

So McCain said Obama isn't a Socialist. So that's that? I don't think so. No one will really know for sure whether he is or not until and if he becomes President. Then it will be too late.



Unfortunately, this is true. By Marx's definition, Obama is a Socialist. There's no getting around it.

If you believe in Socialism which I know many here do, then you'll love Obama if he gets the chance to govern.

But I still believe that's not going to happen.
More unqualified opinion masquerading as fact.
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