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If you're beating your wife and I appeal to you to stop, and you do, have you surrendered your "sovereignty"?
There ought to be a moratorium on right-wingers using big words they don't understand. "Socialist" is another one that needs to be retired until they can consult a dictionary.
I've thought about this a lot this year and came to these conclusions...
1. U.S. Sovereignty is critical, and of course should be the highest priority (for any nation, really)
2. Being respected and maintaining sovereignty are not mutually exclusive. In fact you could argue that they go together. Respect gives us more clout than people realize, in all areas, especially in promoting Democracy and liberty abroad.
3. On a side note, diplomacy does not always equal appeasement. A lot of neocons would disagree, but they're morons anyway, so who cares?
If you're beating your wife and I appeal to you to stop, and you do, have you surrendered your "sovereignty"?
There ought to be a moratorium on right-wingers using big words they don't understand. "Socialist" is another one that needs to be retired until they can consult a dictionary.
Yes, I know what those big words mean. Do you? Or are you just trolling?
I've thought about this a lot this year and came to these conclusions...
1. U.S. Sovereignty is critical, and of course should be the highest priority (for any nation, really)
2. Being respected and maintaining sovereignty are not mutually exclusive. In fact you could argue that they go together. Respect gives us more clout than people realize, in all areas, especially in promoting Democracy and liberty abroad.
3. On a side note, diplomacy does not always equal appeasement. A lot of neocons would disagree, but they're morons anyway, so who cares?
I agree with a lot of the sentiment on this thread, from both sides. I do want to state one thing though; our diplomacy role in mediating other countries squabbles with us or our allies only works because we are capable of forcing the issue if necessary. That capability cannot be overlooked or undermined in any way. If we lose the "big stick" or the will to use it, our attempts at diplomacy will produce squat.
I agree with a lot of the sentiment on this thread, from both sides. I do want to state one thing though; our diplomacy role in mediating other countries squabbles with us or our allies only works because we are capable of forcing the issue if necessary. That capability cannot be overlooked or undermined in any way. If we lose the "big stick" or the will to use it, our attempts at diplomacy will produce squat.
No, it also works because reason, logic and justice are not always on our side or that of our "allies" and there is room for compromise.
Bush has the same idea of diplomacy as you describe above; that is, as a medium for transmitting threatening postures. Hasn't worked out too well for him or for any of us.
No, it also works because reason, logic and justice are not always on our side or that of our "allies" and there is room for compromise.
Bush has the same idea of diplomacy as you describe above; that is, as a medium for transmitting threatening postures. Hasn't worked out too well for him or for any of us.
I think you glossed over my point just to disagree with Bush. If we were not a strong country our attempts at diplomacy would garner little respect or credence with the opposition. I did not post we had to use it, or threaten with it, just that it makes the other side more willing to listen because they already know. If you believe otherwise, imagine Iceland trying to mediate an argument between Iran and Russia.
ps - I can sum it up this way; With the power and might of our country comes great responsibility to do the right thing, but the responsibility is only given because of our power.
the problem is not whether we are a slave to french opinion. the problem is when we are a slave to our own aggression and lust for power. a lust for control over others, when we have none over ourselves.
france is an older sister, one that remembers our common old affection for liberty equality and freedom. we should listen to her.
The USA spent decades getting bombed by radical islamists leading up to 9/11.
Afghanistan was a cesspool. We went in there and scoured it clean. The only pinheads still running around in there causing trouble are foreign radical islamic nutjobs. Finally Afghanistan is quiet and people don't have to worry about a MI-24 Hind massacring their village or the taliban hanging them from a pole. Kids are going to school and people are working.
Iraq was run by one of the worse thugs of the 20th century, Saddam Hussein. He repeatedly tortured and killed his own people including gassing them with chemical weapons. He invaded Iran, causing over a million deaths. He invaded Kuwait and stole everything not nailed down, not to mention one of the greatest environmental disasters in world history, setting the oil fields on fire. He funded terrorist groups including suicide bombers in Israel. He repeatedly pursued WMD's.
Hussein is gone and he wont be bothering us or the world anymore, nor his goofy sons. If democracy works in Iraq it will sent a signal to the rest of the islamic world that living under dictators isn't the only option and it's time to join the rest of the world and not live in 1399.
Don't even get me started on France.
I'm all about peace and love. But I also believe in boundaries and respect and by attacking the USA, we were not being afforded that. Keep in mind the USA contributes more to charity than any other nation. We are about the only country in world history that actually rebuilds it's former enemies.
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