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Old 11-05-2008, 08:50 AM
 
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To start out with, I like both candidates personally. I disagree with both of their platforms, so I had no dog in this race. However, I have to ask this question:

Given an extremely unpopular war, the most unpopular President of all time, the worst financial crisis since the great depression, a housing meltdown, corporate and political greed everywhere and a huge "good feeling" toward electing the first black President, why on Earth was the popular vote so close? It seems that everything would have aligned toward a landslide popular vote, yet almost half the country voted against Obama.

Does this seem odd to anyone else?
The GOP, the McCain campaign and the right wing media all worked hard to reinforce the base's fear and doubt about Obama's Otherness, even when they had to lie and twist to do so, and pushed McCain and Palin as the representatives of traditional home values - Jesus, Mom, Freedom, Country Music, Plumbing. They encouraged prejudice and resentment and discouraged curiosity and challenge. I'm not at all surprised they did well, even with such an uninspired campaign.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Cary - A great town for me
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Thumbs down WOW....it's amazing how much racism there is on the Democrat side.

While of course there will always be racism in our country to a small degree, I am shocked at how quickly and how often the Democrats like to use it. Their only explanation for a lack of a mandate in the popular vote has to be because of racist white people. With thought patterns like that, this country will always be divided. Of course we can't talk about the drooling, hyperventilating 97% of black people that voted for Obama, because they voted 100% based on the platform and not at all based on voting for someone with the same skin color as them.

I think the real racism is clear now.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:53 AM
 
Location: In My Own Little World. . .
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It's odd that you would ask this question. You still have people living in the "past". They don't want to see change. There are people in this country who would rather lose their job, lose their 401K, stay in wars we can't afford, than vote for a black Democrat. Look at GA, TX, MS, AL and all the other RED states. I pity these people. It is unfortunate that they don't even realize their philosophy is now seriously outdated. The Republicans need to go back and re-group. I'm not sure exactly what needs to change with their party, but they are in shambles right now.
That is untrue. I am in a red state, and I voted for McCain. Since I have mixed race people in my family (including a beloved daughter), I hardly think race was an issue for me. However, I was a little concerned about Obama's "quick" rise to the top, and his lack of experience. I used my right to chose the candidate I thought would be best.

Not all red state residents are racists, and I resent the implication that we are.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:54 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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The GOP, the McCain campaign and the right wing media all worked hard to reinforce the base's fear and doubt about Obama's Otherness, even when they had to lie and twist to do so, and pushed McCain and Palin as the representatives of traditional home values - Jesus, Mom, Freedom, Country Music, Plumbing. They encouraged prejudice and resentment and discouraged curiosity and challenge. I'm not at all surprised they did well, even with such an uninspired campaign.
Yup. Typical GOP tactics for the last decade or so.
But this time it just didn't work.


Ken
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:54 AM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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Not odd at all. Many understand that the economy crashed the minute Democrats took over Congress. We also understand the Democratic involvement with the housing meltdown. The countries problems are not all Bush's fault..
You call a 1 vote majority "took over"? It was an impotent Congress. Bush thwarted virtually everything they proposed.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:54 AM
 
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the right wing media
Ah yeah, that blasted right-wing media.

Wasn't there some news anchor that got a "tingly feeling" in his leg when McCain spoke? Talk about biased coverage!
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:57 AM
 
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That is untrue. I am in a red state, and I voted for McCain. Since I have mixed race people in my family (including a beloved daughter), I hardly think race was an issue for me. However, I was a little concerned about Obama's "quick" rise to the top, and his lack of experience. I used my right to chose the candidate I thought would be best.

Not all red state residents are racists, and I resent the implication that we are.
I never said EVERYONE living in a RED state was racist, but unfortunately for you guys, there are many racists who identify with the Republican party.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:57 AM
 
Location: In the Matrix
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Why is it that just because I am white and did not vote for Obama, people think I did it out of racist views? I am NOT a racist at all. My doctor is black for Gosh sakes! I have black friends, I married a Japanese man and I work in a predominately Arabic community and I enjoy the diversity! So don't assume just because people voted for McCain, that they are racist as well!

I didn't vote for Obama BECAUSE I DIDN"T LIKE HIS POLICIES! Not because he was black!

It's not personal at all.

And BTW I've heard many people say that they didn't vote for Palin because she was a woman and for McCain because he was old. That is sexism and ageism!
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:01 AM
 
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To start out with, I like both candidates personally. I disagree with both of their platforms, so I had no dog in this race. However, I have to ask this question:

Given an extremely unpopular war, the most unpopular President of all time, the worst financial crisis since the great depression, a housing meltdown, corporate and political greed everywhere and a huge "good feeling" toward electing the first black President, why on Earth was the popular vote so close? It seems that everything would have aligned toward a landslide popular vote, yet almost half the country voted against Obama.

Does this seem odd to anyone else?
He won by 6% with probably 360 electoral votes where in history is that not a major win?
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:04 AM
 
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To start out with, I like both candidates personally. I disagree with both of their platforms, so I had no dog in this race. However, I have to ask this question:

Given an extremely unpopular war, the most unpopular President of all time, the worst financial crisis since the great depression, a housing meltdown, corporate and political greed everywhere and a huge "good feeling" toward electing the first black President, why on Earth was the popular vote so close? It seems that everything would have aligned toward a landslide popular vote, yet almost half the country voted against Obama.

Does this seem odd to anyone else?
I think it has a lot to do with the electoral college. Since the candidates primarily concentrated on toss-up states, and Obama on a few red ones, most of the solid red and blue states were neglected. Obama probably could have picked up more votes by campaigning in deep red states, but he didn't need them to win, so he ignored them.
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