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Old 11-05-2008, 07:00 PM
 
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Let's just call it even and move on. We still have a failing economy that affects us all.
History will not allow Senator McCain that opportunity nor will it forget the significance of the Obama victory. This moment is recorded forever and the obvious discussion taking place today and for history is both the scope of the victory and the depth of the defeat.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:02 PM
 
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I think it's a tie. Everyone thought the Dems were on the verge of imploding four years ago and now we may have a realignment on our hands, in favor of the Dems. So yes, they had a big win, along with African Americans, needless to say.

For the GOP, they lost big time. The Reagan/Southern Strategy coalition seems to be crumbling and it's because of their own ineptness and complacency.
You are probably right, this was one for the ages on both side.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:04 PM
 
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Obama clearly won the campaign by making use of the Internet to raise funds on a scale that has never been reached before. McCain was clearly blindsided by the reneging of Oama's pledge to use public funding and never really recovered. Regardless of who runs on the Republican Ticket in 2012, be sure that they won't be fooled twice. The loser in all this is the American people who will see further eroding of the trust they have with those who serve us. More money will pore in from undisclosed sources on both sides. Two can play this game after all. It really is a shame that our presidential elections will further deteriorate into that sort of contest in the future. But integrity got McCain nowhere.
Anyone who thinks McCain's smearfest of a campaign exhibited "integrity" is living on the Moon.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:13 PM
 
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Neither. The election will be within 6 million votes. If Obama lost by this margin, they would be demanding a recount amid rioting in most major cities.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:20 PM
 
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Neither. The election will be within 6 million votes. If Obama lost by this margin, they would be demanding a recount amid rioting in most major cities.
But he didn't and is now our POTUS and we will never know if your thoughts are a reasonable analysis or sour grapes from someone now exposed for who and what they are and represent.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:23 PM
 
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The loser in all this is the American people who will see further eroding of the trust they have with those who serve us.
I truly respect George Will on this point and have done so for a period that goes back well before the current election. I can think of nothing that is more a violation of the First Amendment, both with regards to speech and the right of association than "campaign finance reform." While I am certainly in favor of full disclosure, I think that it is a fundamental right for citizens to be able to vote with their wallets when it comes to promoting a particular candidate.
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